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The original controller was like a concept car, lots of new ideas but not every one was guaranteed to stick. Plenty of them did stick though, like grip buttons and gyro control. The new controller is a more conservative iteration that takes what worked and drops what didn’t while acknowledging why the industry converged on the standard button layout all the way back in the late 90s. That’s exactly the sort of innovation I want to see.

The lack of twin thumbsticks are what killed the original.

This one is better, but aside from better trackpad placement, it doesn’t offer a lot above the PS5 controller, which a lot of people already have.

Still, they sold out, so mission successful I suppose. I’ve no doubt the same thing will happen when I try and get a Steam Frame.

The original controller is pretty awesome. It was also really really cheap. I love them because it’s the only controller for playing games that were not designed for a controller.

Not sure if you’re trolling, or have been living under a rock. This new controller is the same as the Steam Deck layout, which has been extremely successful and well received.

It’s like trackball mice, it just takes practice to get used to. Next to no one outside logitech makes them either but they are still genuinely good if it’s what you need.

The main failure of the original controller was the lack of two thumbsticks (just like the PSP). While the track pads made a lot of PC games playable with a controller some games were worse with one thumbstick.

This controller fixes my main compliant, has a dedicated d-pad, and what looks like better track pads. So it’ll be perfect for playing around 90% of games with one controller.

The original controller was great for its innovation. Especially when you got used to it all.

However, the build quality was very lacklustre. The back paddle on mine died in about 200 hours of gaming. After I fixed that the shoulder button went after another 100 or so hours. Fixed that. But within about 500 hours it was totally dead.

Whereas the 2nd hand ds4 I got from eBay that I fitted with my custom made back paddles gave me 2000 hours of rocket league before I had to do any tinkering.
I did over 4000 hours of RL in total and only had to replace the left thumbstick and put o rings over the shoulder button internals.

Do I want the new steam controller, yes. Would I buy one, no.

Yeah giving up for 30 mins probably wasn’t the right move. You just keep trying even when it isn’t working at all. I’ve gotten some great concert tickets that way.

I’ve had 2 different ones, and both got the “R1” button broken. It’s a pity because it’s the best controller I’ve ever used

Honestly I wish they had kept the upturned grips. Those felt really comfy.

… except for the rumble. Worst rumble by far, holy shit. But wonderfull controller otherwise, love mine so much.

I’ve had mine not since launch, but for many years. I use it occasionally, mostly as a curiosity, but can’t reliably get used to it long term. Do you play many action games with it? I find 3D camera controls are too awkward for me.

I had no issues here in Australia either, almost also forgot about it, but was having a coffee at work and ordered it on the steam mobile app. I’m pretty sure Valve have a warehouse for our region, its why we still have stock of the LCD steamdeck is still available

Well, first of all an Xbox controller costs around 50 which is not a third of the price. Secondly the Xbox controller has literally less than half the inputs of the steam controller: Xbox controller has a d-pad, 2 joysticks, 2 triggers, 4 face buttons, 2 top buttons, play/pause buttons and the special power button; whereas the Steam controller also has 4 back buttons, 4 capacitive sensors, gyro, 2 trackpads (each of which on its own has a ridiculous amount of possibilities for usage) and 2 special buttons which are kinda irrelevant here. And that’s without mentioning the fact that TMR sticks are ridiculously better than traditional ones of the Xbox controller, or that the dongle works on a dedicated bandwidth instead of Bluetooth for the Xbox controller (because the dongle is sold separately I’m not considering it here, otherwise you need to add 20 to the total and then it’s DEFINITELY not a third of the price) so latency is much better.

Also, I’m not near a keyboard and mouse most of the time when playing, as I usually play on my TV. If I were near a mouse and keyboard I wouldn’t need a controller to begin with.

An xbox controller can be bought for a 3rd of the price

A used or older model one, maybe.

A new one is only $20 cheaper at $80.

Xbox controllers are bad. I have two with stick drift. The steam controller has TMR sticks. They should never drift as long as the springs don’t wear out. They also have a few other goodies. They are more comparable to the Xbox elite controller.

As a steamdeck owner, the ability to use the trackpads to play old keyboard/mouse games without having to sit at a computer, is great. I’ve been playing a lot of Dungeon Siege and Baldur’s Gate 2, released in early 2000’s with mouse/keyboard in mind, and they both work flawlessly.

The new Steam Controller is a welcome addition because the old Steam Controller doesn’t have the same button and joystick layout, plus its missing buttons, compared to the steamdeck. So when you want to dock the steamdeck and play your favorite first person shooter for example, and game on the TV in the livingroom, there’s no controller until now that matches what you’ve become accustomed to expecting with muscle memory, from playing on the steam deck.

yeah, but that was their first experience with hardware like this. there have been 2 steam decks since then.

Explains why my gen1 controller feels like shit. I never understood why people like them.

The haptics are worse than 90s 3rd party n64 controllers bought from a thrift store

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No point anyway. It’s not like they’re difficult to manufacture or constrained by available components.