• DarthFrodo@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That assumes that even the most miserable lifes are worth living. If I lived in factory farm conditions my whole life, with the kind of procedures the animals have to go through, I’d try to kill myself as soon as possible, as far as I can tell.

    In terms of Utilitarianism, it’s one of the most clearest examples of a life with a net negative intrinsic utility I could think of.

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      2 months ago

      Is it really better to be dead?

      What if you were about to win the lottery?

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        2 months ago

        it’s better to never have existed in the first place than to be born into the life of the average livestock

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        2 months ago

        If I literally had that experience for my whole life until then, I’m pretty certain that I would end it. Even if I knew that I would get out somehow. I can’t even imagine how traumatizing it must be if you never experienced comfort and safety, for your entire life.

        Maybe watch Dominion if you can’t see my point.

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          2 months ago

          How would you even know what you’re missing?

          I’ll watch Dominion, but in exchange you have to (re-)read Man’s Search for Meaning.

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          Its possible that if you’ve never experienced comfort and safety you wont know it exists and the suffering is just baseline and therefore normal and therefore basically fine.

          Unlikely, but possible. I’m just trying to hold onto any sliver of hope I can in such an awful world of man-made horror.