• knexcar@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Is this budget for convincing the general public to support them, or convincing US politicians? Because if it’s the former I don’t see it working or anyone believing the lies. Bloomberg tried something similar to get into the democratic primary and I’m pretty sure he failed spectacularly.

    But I’d bet it’s the latter, and I let buying US politicians will continue to be successful. Because if both republicans and democrats support Israel, even if the public hates them who else is there to vote for?

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      4 months ago

      or convincing US politicians?

      That involves bags of money delivered via AIPAC and, shall we say, more informal means. That has been a long-term and extraordinarily successful effort.

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      4 months ago

      3rd parties, independents, just not voting period, there are a lot of options… we’re too far gone now though, no matter what we need to fully destroy and rebuild our government from the constitution up.

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        4 months ago

        Every time an election comes up though, everyone is like “we need to vote for the democrats because third party/not voting is ‘a vote for the republicans’” and sadly I have to admit due to how first past the post elections work they do have a point. So any individual voting for anything other than a democrat (or not voting) makes it less likely the democrats win and more likely republicans win, and they’re by far the worse option (and still pro Israel).

        Maybe Israel’s propaganda is to dissuade people from voting for anti-Israel politicians in the primaries and the like, rather than directly make them look good.

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          4 months ago

          In your hypothetical you stated that every voter was over both parties. If that were the case then any candidate outside of our 2 established right wing parties would win. But yes in reality we are too stupid to do literally anything else besides let the nepo babies and most malignant of our species control everything with 0 repercussions, been like that since the day we developed speech and human societies and it will remain so until we are no more. We are the species with the least ability to learn apparently, even with all the new tools we constantly develop to help us we are doomed to repeat the exact same mistakes for the entirety of our existence.

    • Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      It’s definitely for the former

      $730 million for public diplomacy — the broad category known in Hebrew as hasbara — nearly five times the $150 million they allocated the year before.

      Hasbara is about changing perception of the general public. The only reason we see some shift in government officials changing their course is because of how toxic support from Israel is seen (so much so that they can lose elections because of it).

      So long as Israel can perform public advocacy to at least get to a place of neutral outlook (or become a sideline topic), then they’d have achieved their goals.

      Israel’s current stated goal is to increase Arab-phobia and Islamophobia through populism and anti-immigration rhetoric to be greater than people’s disdain for Israel.

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    4 months ago

    I don’t think Israel can recover their reputation within foreseeable future. They’d need to completely reform everything.

  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I will forgive israel if they give me all the land they occupy. I will immediately give it to Palestine

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    4 months ago

    Israel is a pariah terrorist state created out of thin air by the British which displaced 700,000 people who’d lived there for centuries

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      4 months ago

      Nuh uh, god granted a piece of sun-blasted desert to special people then also created lush and verdant plains and forests elsewhere on the planet.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe
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    4 months ago

    Who would have thought that the lesson they would take from the Holocaust was to “Pay It Forward?”

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    4 months ago

    Reminds me of the most popular intelectual property and celebrities has the biggest ad compaign despite not needing it. Same here , israel proved that they can get away with full blown genocide with minimal pressure