What’s even funnier is the people my age or younger without kids thinking there’s going to be some magical person to take care of them as they get older.
Jesus people are deluded. I get many of you don’t want kids. Good fucking luck expecting the system or strangers to take care of you 🤣🤣🤣
The one who is deluded is you. First, you definitely can’t guarantee your kids will live in the same town as you when you are retired and need help. Second of all, having kids costs a shitload of money. This money you can use instead to build up savings so that later in your life you can afford to hire someone to take care of you.
Life costs money and poor people are fine having kids. People really need to stop that excuse.
I stand by what I said. Statistically and anecdotally if you have no family you are relying on the state and strangers. The state specifically in America can no longer be trusted and strangers don’t give a shit without a paycheck. You planning on being rich?
So you’re gonna pretend friends and neighbors don’t exist? Lol. Pretending the only two options for a support system is your immediate family or the state is kind of a wild.
Lol. So let me get this straight. Your neighbour is going to drop everything to take you to a hospital appointment? Friends? I love whatever magical world you live in.
Let’s flip the question. Your parents get sick. They’re retired. Fixed income. What are you doing?
I know for me my sister and I have been juggling taking time off work to run them to appointments (note there are a lot of fucking appointments). I don’t think you or any young person is truly appreciating what is involved with taking care of our elders.
It’s wild that’s that you seem to think “helping your neighbor” means dropping everything and catering to their every whim. This is a very warped view of the world. Did a narcissistic parent “teach you” that love means catering to their every whim and your life comes second to theirs or something? Maybe it’s some other deep-seeded emotional issue that is skewing your perspective.
I would absolutely drive a friend to a doctor appointment, or watch their kids when they go out of town, or help them move. That’s why they are called “friends”. And if I drove a friend to the doctor a couple times, but they always refused to help me, then I would no longer consider them my friend.
Maybe you just don’t have a good support network near you so you assume it’s the same for everybody else.
Perhaps you don’t understand the limits of elderly people and what they need including help with appointments, getting meds, groceries, etc especially when they don’t live in a city center.
Seems that you’re the narcaccist only thinking of your own narrow worldview.
Would you help a friend or neighbour in that same scenario when it’s 2 appointments a week? 6 times a month? When the hospital or doctor is 30 minutes to an hour away?
I appreciate your optimism and it’s possible you may do this. You’re the exception not the norm.
If you can’t get out of your narrow mindset to see this that’s not on me. Best of luck in the future. I hope I’m wrong but a lot of you child free adults are going to be absolutely fucked when you’re elderly.
Every accusation is a confession, you narcissist. Again you’re showing your hand by assuming only elderly can take of elderly people for some reason?.. I bet your parents are horribly narcissistic too, probably contributed to your horribly warped world view. I’d say have a nice day, but I’m sure you could never see it that way.
Jesus Christ you’re deluded. You’re doubling down in every way possible to justify the fact that when you get old you’re fucked. I can’t help that and whatever you need to do to rationalize that it’s on you.
This is not just you. Every single one of you childfree people have a reckoning unless you can get society to double down on communal care which is currently not the norm.
Were you even an adult during COVID? Did you see it decimate old people in retirement homes like a cattle farm? The safest elderly were the ones in the care of their loved ones outside of being dumped in a long term care facility.
I never said that, but statistically and anecdotally when you get older your first line of support is your family. When you have no family you have no first line of support.
Statistically and anecdotally, if you only make children so they will take care of you when you’re old, they will ditch your sorry ass at the fist opportunity.
Never said that but if you don’t have them everyone around you is going to die unless you’re lucky enough to die early. With no kids and a government that doesn’t give a shit and no money what’s your plan? Lol
Are you just an inconvenienced millionaire right now waiting for your day to be rich?
You did say that, there is no other reason for you to make that comment. If you wanted to say something else, perhaps that was a bit of unconscious talking. Anyway, I am not selfish and psychotic enough to see kids as my regiment plan, so thanks but no thanks.
Hi, I’m part of the system of strangers that takes care of the elderly in America. Most of them do have children, and are abandoned to the system. They are in a similar position to those without, but there are some whose families do still visit at the facility, and those do tend to be the ones doing the best.
It’s iust a general trend though. Exceptions exist on both sides
What’s even funnier is the people my age or younger without kids thinking there’s going to be some magical person to take care of them as they get older.
Jesus people are deluded. I get many of you don’t want kids. Good fucking luck expecting the system or strangers to take care of you 🤣🤣🤣
The one who is deluded is you. First, you definitely can’t guarantee your kids will live in the same town as you when you are retired and need help. Second of all, having kids costs a shitload of money. This money you can use instead to build up savings so that later in your life you can afford to hire someone to take care of you.
Life costs money and poor people are fine having kids. People really need to stop that excuse.
I stand by what I said. Statistically and anecdotally if you have no family you are relying on the state and strangers. The state specifically in America can no longer be trusted and strangers don’t give a shit without a paycheck. You planning on being rich?
So you’re gonna pretend friends and neighbors don’t exist? Lol. Pretending the only two options for a support system is your immediate family or the state is kind of a wild.
Lol. So let me get this straight. Your neighbour is going to drop everything to take you to a hospital appointment? Friends? I love whatever magical world you live in.
Let’s flip the question. Your parents get sick. They’re retired. Fixed income. What are you doing?
I know for me my sister and I have been juggling taking time off work to run them to appointments (note there are a lot of fucking appointments). I don’t think you or any young person is truly appreciating what is involved with taking care of our elders.
It’s wild that’s that you seem to think “helping your neighbor” means dropping everything and catering to their every whim. This is a very warped view of the world. Did a narcissistic parent “teach you” that love means catering to their every whim and your life comes second to theirs or something? Maybe it’s some other deep-seeded emotional issue that is skewing your perspective.
I would absolutely drive a friend to a doctor appointment, or watch their kids when they go out of town, or help them move. That’s why they are called “friends”. And if I drove a friend to the doctor a couple times, but they always refused to help me, then I would no longer consider them my friend.
Maybe you just don’t have a good support network near you so you assume it’s the same for everybody else.
Perhaps you don’t understand the limits of elderly people and what they need including help with appointments, getting meds, groceries, etc especially when they don’t live in a city center.
Seems that you’re the narcaccist only thinking of your own narrow worldview.
Would you help a friend or neighbour in that same scenario when it’s 2 appointments a week? 6 times a month? When the hospital or doctor is 30 minutes to an hour away?
I appreciate your optimism and it’s possible you may do this. You’re the exception not the norm.
If you can’t get out of your narrow mindset to see this that’s not on me. Best of luck in the future. I hope I’m wrong but a lot of you child free adults are going to be absolutely fucked when you’re elderly.
Every accusation is a confession, you narcissist. Again you’re showing your hand by assuming only elderly can take of elderly people for some reason?.. I bet your parents are horribly narcissistic too, probably contributed to your horribly warped world view. I’d say have a nice day, but I’m sure you could never see it that way.
Jesus Christ you’re deluded. You’re doubling down in every way possible to justify the fact that when you get old you’re fucked. I can’t help that and whatever you need to do to rationalize that it’s on you.
This is not just you. Every single one of you childfree people have a reckoning unless you can get society to double down on communal care which is currently not the norm.
Were you even an adult during COVID? Did you see it decimate old people in retirement homes like a cattle farm? The safest elderly were the ones in the care of their loved ones outside of being dumped in a long term care facility.
Best of luck.
You assume your kids are going to be your care takers? What makes you think your kids won’t move away?
I never said that, but statistically and anecdotally when you get older your first line of support is your family. When you have no family you have no first line of support.
Children are a shitty retirement plan.
Never said they were.
Statistically and anecdotally, if you only make children so they will take care of you when you’re old, they will ditch your sorry ass at the fist opportunity.
Never said that but if you don’t have them everyone around you is going to die unless you’re lucky enough to die early. With no kids and a government that doesn’t give a shit and no money what’s your plan? Lol
Are you just an inconvenienced millionaire right now waiting for your day to be rich?
You did say that, there is no other reason for you to make that comment. If you wanted to say something else, perhaps that was a bit of unconscious talking. Anyway, I am not selfish and psychotic enough to see kids as my regiment plan, so thanks but no thanks.
Hi, I’m part of the system of strangers that takes care of the elderly in America. Most of them do have children, and are abandoned to the system. They are in a similar position to those without, but there are some whose families do still visit at the facility, and those do tend to be the ones doing the best.
It’s iust a general trend though. Exceptions exist on both sides