TL;DR; trying to suggest Rorschach is not a bad guy but a complex character when he hand waves rape, victims blames rape victims and the victims of hate crimes (contextually a lesbian woman), refers to women as whores, is a fascist and really only manages to do a single heroic thing in his entire worthless existence is ridiculous. Next you’ll try to tell me Trump is a hebephile.
Great, great.
So let’s list off some things that I’ve dredged up about Rorschach, not from memory mind you — I simply started looking up what good things and what bad things Rorschach has done.
Let’s start with the bad:
As an 11 year old he writes about idolizing Harry Truman for dropping the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
He’s an avid reader of ‘The New Frontiersman’ which is revealed to be a far-right conspiracy theory and racism peddler. These are the people he leaves his journal with.
He refers to the first Silk Spectres rape as a ‘moral lapse’ by the Comedian, and I’m pretty sure it’s implied he blames her for her assault. Not only that, he likely said this because he idolizes the Comedian.
He refers to the victim of a hate crime as a ‘victim of her indecent lifestyle’ — the dude is fucking homophobic.
Killed a bunch of dogs for being fed the remains of a little girl. Fucked up, very fucked up circumstance but the fact remains — revenge on the man is one thing, revenge on the dogs is another. I don’t think they killed the little girl.
He’s a misogynist. He frequently refers to certain women as whores.
Let’s move to the good:
He punishes his idea of ‘evil’ which leads to him taking out rapists, murderers and other criminals. He likely didn’t know about the Comedians crimes, yet he definitely just doesn’t give a shit considering what I’ve already established.
He decides not to confiscate Moloch’s medication.
He decides to heroically kill himself. The single heroic thing he achieves in the story.
I cannot find more examples of him being good, and it’s hard to say ‘being heroic’ is good in this context.
So, are good guys homophobic? Are good guys misogynistic? Do they victim blame victims of rape or hate crimes? Would a good guy violently kill a bunch of dogs for being victims of their owner’s crime? Can you be a good guy and be on the far right? Do good guys handwave rape for their idols?
I’m not arguing whether he’s a good or bad character in regards to the role he plays in the full story. If the conversation were about that then you may have some footing. The question is ‘Was Rorschach a good guy or a bad guy’. He was absolutely a bad guy, despite being the protagonist and the closest thing to a ‘hero’ the story has.
Mmk, good luck telling your kids or the kids in your life the story about the Big Effective Wolf.
And good luck to you, I hope you learn to read (and comprehend what words mean), for the sake of your kids.
Let me know when you actually read Watchmen, by the way.
I’ve got 3 copies. And I’ve pirated the moving comic version.
Thanks though.
TL;DR; trying to suggest Rorschach is not a bad guy but a complex character when he hand waves rape, victims blames rape victims and the victims of hate crimes (contextually a lesbian woman), refers to women as whores, is a fascist and really only manages to do a single heroic thing in his entire worthless existence is ridiculous. Next you’ll try to tell me Trump is a hebephile.
Great, great.
So let’s list off some things that I’ve dredged up about Rorschach, not from memory mind you — I simply started looking up what good things and what bad things Rorschach has done.
Let’s start with the bad:
As an 11 year old he writes about idolizing Harry Truman for dropping the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
He’s an avid reader of ‘The New Frontiersman’ which is revealed to be a far-right conspiracy theory and racism peddler. These are the people he leaves his journal with.
He refers to the first Silk Spectres rape as a ‘moral lapse’ by the Comedian, and I’m pretty sure it’s implied he blames her for her assault. Not only that, he likely said this because he idolizes the Comedian.
He refers to the victim of a hate crime as a ‘victim of her indecent lifestyle’ — the dude is fucking homophobic.
Killed a bunch of dogs for being fed the remains of a little girl. Fucked up, very fucked up circumstance but the fact remains — revenge on the man is one thing, revenge on the dogs is another. I don’t think they killed the little girl.
He’s a misogynist. He frequently refers to certain women as whores.
Let’s move to the good:
He punishes his idea of ‘evil’ which leads to him taking out rapists, murderers and other criminals. He likely didn’t know about the Comedians crimes, yet he definitely just doesn’t give a shit considering what I’ve already established.
He decides not to confiscate Moloch’s medication.
He decides to heroically kill himself. The single heroic thing he achieves in the story.
I cannot find more examples of him being good, and it’s hard to say ‘being heroic’ is good in this context.
So, are good guys homophobic? Are good guys misogynistic? Do they victim blame victims of rape or hate crimes? Would a good guy violently kill a bunch of dogs for being victims of their owner’s crime? Can you be a good guy and be on the far right? Do good guys handwave rape for their idols?
I’m not arguing whether he’s a good or bad character in regards to the role he plays in the full story. If the conversation were about that then you may have some footing. The question is ‘Was Rorschach a good guy or a bad guy’. He was absolutely a bad guy, despite being the protagonist and the closest thing to a ‘hero’ the story has.