• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    Don’t blame me, I posted critical memes on Lemmy, I did all I could!

    Edit: I have some mixed feelings about this comment. Let’s cut the snark and actually think about what we can do to stop this madness. I hope everyone is checking in with their local orgs to see what actions can be taken.

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        Americans are also a victim of it. But we do have more agency (and thus responsibility) in reducing its harms.

        I will note however that there is probably something that can be done from anywhere in the world. We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.

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          You can say whatever you want to try to dilute and deflect any criticism, but to us outside the empire, we simply can watch the news to see who is the real problem

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          Victim of American empire:

          Dont blame me, im one of the victims of your fascist empire

          (Presumably) American:

          We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.

          Are you kidding?

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            Everyone wants to play the victim. No one wants to do the hard work to protect the victims. Human nature.

            But whining about it online doesn’t change shit. I guarantee you the real victims aren’t here on Lemmy.

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              Everyone wants to be a victim. No one wants to do the hard work to protect the victims. Human nature.

              But whining about it online doesn’t change shit.

              Are you kidding me? What do you know about Salamence’s life, situation, or actions? What gives you the right to lecture like this?

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                The fact that they’re lecturing us from the same position lol. That’s what made me want to comment in the first place.

                But it’s fine, I was trying to get past that with my edit calling for everyone to work together. But I guess as usual leftists working together proves impossible. Big part of why the world is so shit.

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                  calling for everyone to work together

                  Really? From this reply you made clear what you want is to share the blame

                  We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.

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                  The fact that they’re lecturing us from the same position lol. That’s what made me want to comment in the first place.

                  the same position

                  Salamence:

                  Dont blame me, im one of the victims of your fascist empire

                  Clearly not the same position. You assumed the person posting was in the same position, which was incorrect.

                  But it’s fine, I was trying to get past that with my edit calling for everyone to work together. But I guess as usual leftists working together proves impossible. Big part of why the world is so shit.

                  Solidarity is good. But people in the imperial core can’t expect solidarity if they don’t give it.

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      And surely no “leftist” is going to get incredibly mad when I say:

      “Authority breeds violence. Death to all authority, states being the best example of them. Death to states, of which the US is the most powerful and most destructive.”

      I’m sure no “leftist” is instead going to propose creation of a “leftist state”, employ exsoldiers of the previous capitalist state and then justify war crimes by those soldiers under the name of “liberation”.

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        This is a left unity comm, not an anarchist comm. Different opinions on the nature and purpose of the state are allowed and expected.

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          “Red bourgeoisie are better than blue bourgeoisie” is contradictory with the goal of achieving a stateless, classless society.

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    This is funny and insightful because soldiers of lefty governments never kill innocent civilians. /s Gawd this campist garbage is braindead. This would be a great comic for a pacifist sub, but what’s it got to do with leftism?

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        Am I really? No, I am annoyed that leftism is being hijacked by nationalistic idiocy. Criticize the US military all you want, but if I can slap the name of literally any other country on the same cartoon, the criticism isn’t exactly pointed. (or interesting)

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            I made my criticism clear. Having no answer to that criticism, you assumed a motivation that didn’t exist and attacked that.

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              I made my criticism clear.

              You’re here crying that someone criticized ameriKKKan soldiers for being monsters and your justification is that other soldiers do it too.

              midwest.social

              “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” Your fascist empire is destroying the world, yankee. Don’t go crying when people take offense to that.

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                I’m not crying and have no problem with criticisms of US troops or US military actions. This particular criticism is dumb as fuck though.

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                  I’m not crying and have no problem with criticisms of US troops or US military actions.

                  Except when people make them, then you get angry and say things like…

                  This particular criticism is dumb as fuck though.

                  This particular criticism is mocking the common excuse americans will give for why they have no choice but to sign up to murder innocent people: “I just wanted to pay for college”. The point is that it doesn’t make a difference to the victims. It’s a good point.