I recently saw “Rampage” from 2009. Its basically a movie where a spree shooter is portrayed as the good guy/anti-hero. Several parts gave me that pit in your stomach, teeth gritting uncomfortable moment. I really hated it. Although I’m not surprised there are sequals I am disappointed and will not be watching them.

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    Nightcrawler. To think there are real people like that.

    Incendies. Messed up revelation. Also had my biggest non-horror/thriller jumpscare.

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    Requiem for a Dream is likely to come up. maybe Leon as well. Poor Things might be too close to horror to count, The Girl Next Door definitely is. Watership Down is another common one, Plague Dogs is similar and potentially more uncomfortable. for other animations you could count Perfect Blue and Grave of the Fireflies

    Gummo is mentioned elsewhere, the only other Korine film i’ve seen is Kids (1995) and it’s fucking grim

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            oh right got you. you have any others? i like this kind of stuff

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              Most I can think of have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, like Trainspotting, Blue Velvet, Old Boy. If you know about Requiem, you probably know about π by the same director, but I’ll mention it just in case. Ooh here’s a good one I should have put in the main thread, too late now lol: Die Welle (The Wave). It’s a German drama that takes place in a high school, that’s all I’ll say about it, but it’s really good.

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        never occurred to me tbh but i just looked it up and it’s scored by the guy from Pop Will Eat Itself, got a rabbithole to follow now. thanks for mentioning this

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            yeah it is. i’m going to give it another watch, i think i disliked it before because it seemed at the same time staged and also too intrusive into peoples real lives? but probably that was the point, that they were playing up to it, still it’s all a bit gooble gobble one of us. i’ll have another look, would be interested in the rest of your top ten if you want to post it

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              It’s entirely fictional, but has some real humanity in there which shows through very strongly in some scenes. So not really intrusive, they are all actors.

              I couldn’t give an accurate top 10, but here’s a rough list of 9 others I’ve watched many times and love:

              Old boy

              Sunshine

              Rec (Spanish original)

              The matrix

              Cloverfield

              Cube

              As above so below

              Watchmen

              Alice (1988, russian)

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                i’m honestly surprised to hear that but glad i had the wrong impression, i’ll get around soon to a rewatch. thanks for the list too, have enjoyed several of those and will be trying Sunshine and Alice

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    the skin i live in(2011) is extremely upsetting, and i’m not sure I would call it horror, although it would be pretty easy to make the argument for horrifying.

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    The Hunt (2012). Sweet guy gets accused by the child of his best friends to have abused her, thanks to suggestive questioning. Whole town turns against him, even though he’s innocent. I couldn’t finish watching it.

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      Great movie. Mads Mikkelsen is fantastic as always. Horrible to watch someone go through that. I didn’t know it was based on a true story.

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        Sorry, i misremembered: Vinterberg (director) got handed a bunch of anonymized cases by his psychiatrist:

        They were real cases from around the world. Most were about false memory syndrome and invented memories. The Hunt isn’t based on any individual case but it’s inspired by the ideas in them. The psychiatrist’s idea was that thought, ideas, can be a virus. Once a certain idea about a person takes hold, it can spread like wildfire. If The Celebration was about kids being victimized, this film is too but about victimization of another kind. When someone is accused of child abuse, the kids get interrogated by policemen and psychiatrists who repeatedly ask them the same questions. Sometimes, the kids give the grown-ups the answers they want. They say, ‘yes, he abused me.’ Then everyone goes crazy and for the child, his whole world falls apart.

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    The Wolf of Wall Street. That movie gave me nightmares.

    At the risk of sounding prude, seeing so much excess and chaos crossed the line from being morbid to becoming genuinely unpleasant, like seeing drunks and drug addicts in real life. I hated DiCaprio’s character with a passion from start to finish, and that night after watching the movie, I had a nightmare where I was at one of those parties and they were abusing me and my friends.

    Knowing that it’s based on real events, that the guy DiCaprio plays is free, and that there are people who admire him even after seeing the movie makes me feel dejected.

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      Yeah I fucking hate that movie. It feels like it made their horrendous behavior into a joke. None of it is funny in the context of reality. So glad to hear someone feels the same way about the movie.

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      Hard Candy is commonly featured on horror lists. If we get a bit technical it’s more of a suspense thriller, but then the more technical we get about genres the less they actually make sense as separate categories and the entire phylogeny falls apart.

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    I recently did a rewatch of all the James Bond movies.
    The Moore ones from (especially) the late seventies made me cringe away really hard.
    Tried to watch them for completeness sake, but made me physically uncomfortable so in the end I skipped large parts.
    Didn’t age well at all…
    I really like most of the older and newer ones, though.

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        Mainly the pure sexism.
        While this is also present in the earlier films, Moore adds a slimey cheeziness I really just can’t stand watching.
        Especially after having seen Lazenby’s Bond just before, which was a move to a much more serious type of thriller, which I totally loved.

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    Irreversible. Don’t watch it. Or rather… I recommend looking up first why it is so controversial and see if you think you want to watch it. If you want to watch it… It is a pretty brilliant way to actual convey the thing happening, but it is still stuck in my mind years later and I’m pretty sure I can never watch it again.

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      This thread deserves Dancer in the Dark. Another film that I love but cannot recommend.

      Set up your depression-treatment space beforehand. You’re going to be there a while. Beauty and tragedy so tightly bound that it feels monumental.

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      Critical reception was polarised, with praise towards the performances and Noé’s direction, but criticism towards its graphic portrayal of violence and rape. American film critic Roger Ebert called Irréversible “a movie so violent and cruel that most people will find it unwatchable”.

      Yeah, I think I understand where you’re coming from on this one. Definitely not for the feint of heart.

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      Came here to say this one. I saw it at a film festival in a theatre… ooof that was a lot. My buddy and I got high and watched Super Troopers afterwards as brain bleach. Didn’t work, still rattled.

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    Falling Down (1993). The main character attacking minorities, saying American conservative shit, and enablement of urban paranoia was pretty unsettling. The black comedy undertones did get me to chuckle once or twice, but overall just an upsetting thinking of some people sympathizing with the MC in a way that led conservatism to what it is today. The fact that he killed a neonazi does not balance it out.

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        It wasn’t horrible at the time but in hindsight it really is some kind of conservative underdog fantasy.

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      Curiously, when I saw it, I picked up that the guy was crazy and violent, and saw it as a horror film following the monster.

      Years later, I’d learn that it was popularly seen as a white-guy underdog movie set (and produced) during the Rodney King crisis and the police war on gangs.

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      Been a long time since I’ve seen this movie, but I always thought the point of the neonazi was specifically to point out how alike the two were. At the end of the scene where he kills him, the scene is shot in a reflection in a mirror. He kills the nazi, nazi drops out frame in the reflection, leaving just the MC, who then shoots and shatters the mirror itself.

      https://youtu.be/Y6JqwQfli7Y

      Wasn’t he also watching the neonazi through reflections in a store’s security mirrors earlier? It’s really been a long time.

      I always assumed the point of the movie was to show how stupid the idea of the “White Man’s Burden” and white persecution complex was, with some critique of American exceptionslism thrown in.

      I shouldn’t be surprised that some people took the exact opposite from the film and empathize with the MC. Kind of reminds me of Fight Club in that sense.

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        I always wished I had an eye for that kind of thing; no I haven’t noticed that!

        I always assumed the point of the movie was to show how stupid the idea of the “White Man’s Burden” and white persecution complex was, with some critique of American exceptionslism thrown

        Throughout the movie, I wanted it to be satirical, and wanted to believe that it was exactly this because of how ridiculous and exploitative aspects of this movie are. But there so many moments where the film was intentionally trying to get me to sympathize for the character and made it feel very sincere.

        I shouldn’t be surprised that some people took the exact opposite from the film and empathize with the MC. Kind of reminds me of Fight Club in that sense.

        Absolutely this, and in more extreme cases with movies like American History X too. But American History X’s message is obvious to me and I really believe you’d have to be pretty moronic, as neonazis usually are, to believe it’s a pro-white supremacy movie and feel empowered by it. Fight Club is more subtle, but I believe it gives more opportunity for people not to identify with the opposite of the message, even for those that don’t know or get it. I just didn’t feel that way about Falling Down.

        But I don’t know man, you’ve actually inspired me to want to rewatch it; see if I feel any differently.