It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media. Reddit has many issues, but lack of women is not one of them.
This is like an echo champer of tech people, hard to find non-tech aware people here.
That was reddit when it first started it just takes time the problem is reddit people want to speed run this and created a bunch of communities then abandoned them or filled them with AI Slop. Only making it harder for stuff to grow organically. I do wish Lemmy and Piefed had a network global name space for communities like how IRC does channels.
Tankies and anarchists.
What’s a tankie?
The AI hate is almost like medieval witch hunting. Someone says, “It is AI” (which translates to “witchcraft and the work of Satan”), and the rest seem to run and grab their pitchforks and torches, ready to burn the author at the stake.
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Upvote / downvote counts: these should be yeeted into the garbage pile of history.
Still not exactly sure what “yeeted” means, but I like how upvotes & downvotes tend to bring quality content to the fore, and I even like them as a permanent record. They’re not very useful of course, but having the motivation to permanently increasing my totals is useful for sharing good content and communicating in good faith. At least for me.
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Nah I think you’re on the money. As someone with ADHD, those worthless little updoots and infinity-scrolling are almost as bad as any algorithm!
ICBW and YMMV
YTMND. 👍
Okay, thanks. I can never seem to remember it, maybe because it feels so unnatural. Maybe it would help if I knew where it came from, though. *shrug*
Pragmatically, they’ve end up being more a social proof / opinion suppression / brigading tool.
That seems exceptionally pessimistic to me, but maybe you have more insight in to all that than I do. Personally I think multiple things can be true about upvotes / downvotes, some useful, some harmful perhaps.
In any case, there is no debate that upvotes are useful and valuable to me when it comes to posting and commenting.
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Well, I remember ye olden days of Usenet - we mostly got along without them, and without some of the issues they seem to cause.
Things change, though. Upvote/downvote was one of the many things Reddit and other places trialed over the years, and based on the success, stuck with it. Me, I barely spent any time on Usenet, but it occurs to me that the userbase was probably smaller. A much, much larger userbase probably fits better with upvote/downvote, so the comparison there is likely skewed, methinks.
‘Dopamine rush’ is exactly right, and I think it’s useful and informational, similar to the way that people react to your statements and ideas in real life. I do think they can have an ‘echo chamber’ effect and help promote the problem that a popular thing or opinion can be completely wrong, but to me that just means that upvotes/downvotes aren’t perfect, not that they should be completely discarded.
https://jacobdesforges.com/you-should-quit-reddit-distribution-wide/
Not sure what you want me to do with a link to a book, but I don’t even agree with the premise of the title sentence. Reddit is still very useful to me, and I know of no other place that replicates the variety of content, there.
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Ok, but I think you’re conflating two separate things
I feel like they’re distinctly separate things, and I thought I’d communicated as much. Oh, well.
…the voting system consistently produces pathological outcomes at scale.
That seems like… a little much. I do agree that upvotes/downvotes indeed gamify the system, but on the whole would say that the end-effect on Reddit results in a big bunch of hoomons acting in typical hoomon ways, which is with deep undercurrents of fickle, ignorant, selfish, feel-good behavior.
The Usenet comparison wasn’t really about scale. It was about the incentive structure.
Yeah, I get that, but I do observe that there are advantages to upvote/downvote that indeed work better on a larger scale. I’m not sure they’re really needed on a smaller scale.
I’d say I agree with most of the things you wrote, but remain unconvinced that upvote/downvote is so absolutely toxic as to merit tossing. And of course, I don’t think it’s going to happen, anyway.
Aggregate behaviour amongst naked apes? Yeah, I would tend to agree. Now what?
Sometimes I don’t really want to get into a conversation about trans issues. I find the topic very prevalent on here, as if I’ve strayed into a sub by accident. Live and let live, and absolutely respect everyone’s right to be whatever they want, but it’s not a topic I can contribute to - and I certainly I don’t want to upset anyone by wading into an emotive topic I have no experience, interest or knowledge on, so I’d rather just leave it.
I’m just saying that it’s up there with LINUX as a prevailing topic, which I’m similarly disinterested in.
It’s a moral prop. Sort of like pedophilia is for the right, for the left trans issues lets them concern troll and beat everyone over the head with how noble they are for supporting it and how evil anyone is who doesn’t agree 110%. Most of the comments I see about trans issues on here are not even positive, they are mostly ‘if you don’t support trans rights 120% and believe in the removal of heterosexuality, you’re a bigot/nazi/genocide supporter’. It’s insane. but I have no doubt people genuinely think that way because I know ones like that IRL. They tend to be deeply insecure and fragile people who’s coping mechanism is just being insanely irrationally angry. They are just the leftist MAGA types of people.
I’ve seen people get downvoted and banned for posting actual scientific research on puberty blockers, detransitioning, links between autism and trans.
The last one is undeniable for a subsection of transfolk. The “neurodivergent, isolated kid on 4chan that gets programmer socks and starts their transition” path is well known.
Autism and trans has a huge overlap. Explanations and Interpretations for this vary.
Discussing this and the pipeline you describe will quickly get you banned from many places around here.
I’ll leave this comment in place in order to debunk it.
You are misquoting the study you have referenced. A read of the abstract showed zero consideration of whether there was any correlation between autism and trans.
Please don’t post misinformation!
The common overlap between autism, elevated autistic traits, and gender identity diversity has been reported in both clinical (de Vries et al. 2010; Hisle-Gorman et al. 2019) and community (Strauss et al. 2017; Walsh et al. 2018) samples. In the largest study to date, the odds of an autism diagnosis were more than six times greater among transgender (or broadly gender-diverse) individuals than among those who were cisgender (Warrier et al. 2020).
