A family of corvids built their nest right by my door. I’ve enjoyed seeing their nest grow, and I think the babies are now full fledglings.

Up until now, we’ve each been going out separate ways. Aside from leaving them some sticks to use, I haven’t interacted with them directly.

Today I either closed the door too hard, or they got spooked by the garbage truck passing by. A crow dive bombed me twice, hitting me the first time and whooshing by me the second time. It didn’t hurt, but I’m offended that they don’t remember me.

I know crows can hold a vendetta and remember faces. Any tips on how to get back in their good graces?

edit: I looked into giving them food, but it’s against the bylaws in my city

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bird-feeding-vancouver-bylaw

A Vancouver resident who admittedly loves feeding the crows in his neighbourhood is now facing a major fine.

According to Reddit user DubUbasswitmyheadman, they’ve been feeding birds while walking their dog.

However, they claim that feeding the wildlife irritated enough people to prompt one neighbour to contact their landlord to collect their email and phone number.

DubUbasswitmyheadman now claims they are facing a $4,000 fine for feeding wildlife.

  • ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    A crow dive bombed me twice, hitting me the first time and whooshing by me the second time. It didn’t hurt, but I’m offended that they don’t remember me

    Dude, if they have a youngling and they attacked you/divebombed once, they were teaching the youngling to fly and wanted you to go away just in case.

    If it continues, you can try to bribe them, if that doesn’t help you will have to chase them away. Preferably after the fledglings can fly.

    • Reef@lemmy.caOP
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      13 days ago

      I think you were right on the money. It was an isolated incident and I may have interrupted a flying lesson that day.

      We have befriended them since that point. The summer is hot, and they know we will give them some water when we go out to tend to the garden

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      If I were a young parent I wouldn’t want something shiny, I’d want diapers.

      I’d put out an array of snacks and see which one they pick first, then add more of that the next day.

      If someone feeds my babies reliably and conveniently I’ll forgive them pretty quick.

      They say it takes ten seconds to break trust but ten years to rebuild it, so OP is gonna have to play the long game.

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        2 months ago

        I don’t want them to become too dependent on me, in case it hurts their ability to find food on their own.

        How much food would be reasonable but not excessive?

        • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 months ago

          If you limit it to like a few seeds a day, I don’t think you’ll become their primary food source

          Disclaimer : I’m not a biologist. But I remember reading somewhere that birds need to eat almost as much if not more than their body weight per day.

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          2 months ago

          You can give them a lot. Birds are like humans they aren’t going to eat too much of the same thing. Even feeding birds in your backyard will only make up about 25% of their consumption. The rest they get from live bugs, berries, etc.

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          2 months ago

          I wish I was a crow biologist so I could help you. But I know crows like peanuts, so maybe a peanut, an almond, and a pecan and go from there.

          Interspecies communication has to start slowly.

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            2 months ago

            I can confirm with firsthand experience that crows fucking love unsalted cashews. I don’t know if it’s the flavor, distinctive shape, or the texture, but there was a family of crows at my old house that used to go bugfuck wild when I gave them cashews.

            I used to buy them in bulk as a snack, so I always had a lot on hand. I’d usually put them in a little plastic cup if I was going outside. One time I spilled some on the patio and didn’t bother cleaning them up. The next time I was outside and had a cup of them, that family of crows was extremely interested. I left a few on the patio as an experiment and went back inside. As soon as I was inside, they were on those cashews like flies on shit.

            From then on, whenever I happened to take that plastic cup outside, I’d have a family of crows waiting for the traditional offering of cashews.

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    2 months ago

    No clue how exactly, but maybe you could also give them “toys” or things that are fun for them. Or shiny things that jingle or something lol. Or maybe build them a raised stand where they can land and look with a roof against rain. Or maybe even a birdbath?

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    2 months ago

    As the others said, food. Specifically unsalted cashews. I called our (Dutch) bird rescue center and they said that’s the healthiest “human” food to give them.

    I have three crow friends (and sometimes their buddies) who light on my balcony railing and wait for me to come out. One will eat it there while I’m watching; the other two fly it across the street to their stashes. All three will just sit on the railing and watch me work sometimes.

    Sometimes the magpies show up, but they are super, ultra cautious around The Human. I can tell they know me though when they fly through the street. They make the happy magpie sound they make to their mates when one of them steals a cashew intended for the crows instead of being silent.

    I get that this is illegal, but you do not have to give them a lot or make it obvious . One or two a day. You may not see them, but they will see and remember you as Cashew Guy/Gal/Nonbinary Pal.

    Also alas, Unidan, where did you go?

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      2 months ago

      Do you happen to enjoy boiling denim, foraging naked in the sewers, and playing nightcrawlers?

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    2 months ago

    Here’s the thing: you said it’s a crow, no one’s arguing that. But are we sure they aren’t jackdaws? They’re in the same family. Let’s get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

    As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.

    It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?

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      2 months ago

      [for anyone who doesn’t get it this is the most famous comment from Unidan who was a scientist but, alas, drunk a bit too much of his own koolaid. Other than that, he was a very cool commenter.]

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    Huh I had no idea we’re not allowed to feed crows.

    I got dive bombed years ago one summer, after which I started bribing the crows with peanuts from my balcony. I started by just putting them on my railing, backing away and letting them see me as they grabbed them. Now they’re used to me and let me get pretty close, or come hang out when I’m out there.

    They’ve got babies out front of my building this week and show no interest in me or my dog, but I see them bombing other people regularly.

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    2 months ago

    Crows will eat cat or dog food (my local crows love the cat food we feed them!). If there aren’t laws against feeding stray cats, you could put a bowl on your porch with cat food and if you’re questioned, play innocent.

    As an aside, if you want to identify the fledglings, look at their mouth. Baby crows have red/pink mouths while the adults have black mouths!

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      As an aside, if you want to identify the fledglings, look at their mouth. Baby crows have red/pink mouths while the adults have black mouths!

      The one(s) in the nest have orange around their beaks, so that must be the fledglings. The one(s) that attacked me do indeed have black beaks!

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    2 months ago

    If you go outside with a sandwich and accidentally drop that sandwich, then loundly proclaim your disappointment in your clumsiness, then go back inside, and the crows come down for the remains of your sandwich … and if this becomes a reguar occurrence … you can’t be fined for being clumsy. Can you?

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    2 months ago

    I was watering the garden and sheepishly decided to spray a crow (not my finest moment). It started dive bombing me regularly. So I gave it some banana and we were chill after that. It only took one offering. You could try giving it some soft material for it’s nest.

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      2 months ago

      this is like crack to those birds. you don’t need to feed them daily or even that regularly for them to associate you

      if this will make them less protective of their nest you’ll find out. please report back in one of the corvids communities.

      it’s always good to have crow friends