Sure I can appreciate the innovation in them. I even said I understand their historical value. That doesn’t make them amazing now. That makes them amazing for their time. For most of the movies we’ve continued to innovate and grow since then.
Like 3:10 to Yuma (just the criterion film I’ve most recently interacted with, no particular shade with it, actually one of the few I enjoyed). Sure it was complex and beautifully shot at the time but we’ve done so many westerns since then. The Good the bad and the Ugly, Django Unchained, heck even a few years after 3:10 to Yuma we got How the West was Won which all built in scale, production, and cinematography on 3:10. They took what 3:10 showed them and ran.
So yeah, I can appreciate them, but I still think too many people mindlessly praise them just because of their history. They’re not necessarily amazing films, they’re historically important films.
Edit: Forgot to add. There are two perfect movies in the criterion collection that no one will ever beat. Michael Bay’s “Armageddon” and Michael Bay’s “The Rock” (I kid)
oh you’re one of those ‘we’re more sophisicated now’ types. makes sense.
IMO we are not more sophisicated we do not move beyond old art. thinking we do is the height of arrogance and missing the entire point. art is supposed to humble you, not elevate you into thinking you are superior.
Sure I can appreciate the innovation in them. I even said I understand their historical value. That doesn’t make them amazing now. That makes them amazing for their time. For most of the movies we’ve continued to innovate and grow since then.
Like 3:10 to Yuma (just the criterion film I’ve most recently interacted with, no particular shade with it, actually one of the few I enjoyed). Sure it was complex and beautifully shot at the time but we’ve done so many westerns since then. The Good the bad and the Ugly, Django Unchained, heck even a few years after 3:10 to Yuma we got How the West was Won which all built in scale, production, and cinematography on 3:10. They took what 3:10 showed them and ran.
So yeah, I can appreciate them, but I still think too many people mindlessly praise them just because of their history. They’re not necessarily amazing films, they’re historically important films.
Edit: Forgot to add. There are two perfect movies in the criterion collection that no one will ever beat. Michael Bay’s “Armageddon” and Michael Bay’s “The Rock” (I kid)
oh you’re one of those ‘we’re more sophisicated now’ types. makes sense.
IMO we are not more sophisicated we do not move beyond old art. thinking we do is the height of arrogance and missing the entire point. art is supposed to humble you, not elevate you into thinking you are superior.