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      I had completely forgotten Lenovo bought Motorola from Google some 10 years ago. Honestly haven’t seen a Motorola phone in at least that long …

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        Been using motorola for a long time. I bought Moto Z in 2016 and it booted with “Motorola company” text in the end of the boot video. After Lenovo acquisition, phone updated and video now said “Motorola, a Lenovo company”.

        Thankfully, Motorola haven’t entshittified over these years. Still a solid phone. Almost no bloat.

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    What’s the likelihood that Motorola will eventually lock down GrapheneOS though? Imho it’d be a bad move if they did. The FOSS mobile OS community has matured to the point that we don’t need to rely on for-profit monoliths any more. Motorola would be smart to lead the way to where the mobile device economy will be.

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      matured to the point that we don’t need to rely on for-profit monoliths any more

      Which phones are we using for Graphene OS at the moment? Ah, yeah… Google… well known for its non-profit behaviour… I say: Give me alternatives which we aren’t to try to get rid of in the first place.

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        See: PinePhone (Ubuntu Touch, postmarketOS) for $149-199 via their intl site: pine64.org.

        OR

        SF’s Librem 5 (PureOS, plus Ubuntu Touch, postmarketOS) for ~$700 via puri.sm.

        Both shippable to the US. They’re unpolished OSs and expect delays, but they do exist. The competition will only increase going forward.

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          Both are alternatives, but not fleshed out as far I know. There is also e/OS, but it’s the same story. So we actually don’t have a viable solution

          Also: Why is “shippable to the US” a criterion for FOSS or the rest of the world? You know, there are other Countries on this blue Marble…

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            We’re speaking English and the US is by far the largest demographic for English speakers on BlueSky. The UK is the second closest and represents 5-6x less people. I genuinely wish you luck with how you engage with people in the future.

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        Oh snap, I misread it as Motorola bought GrapheneOS! This is way better news than I realized! Thx for the clarification. 🫡

        Edit: On reflection can FOSS even be bought since it doesn’t have an owner to pay? I’m caught up now.

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          On reflection can FOSS even be bought

          Yes, you can pay developers to stop publishing new changes. Basically hire the people developing it and stop releasing the code. Community can try to still develop it independently.

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            At the limit though they’d have to pay every coder with an interest in that software’s development and enough time for a hobby. I guess they could target distribution like Codeberg but alternatives would eventually fill their place.

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      Jesus dude let them get compatibility before you bring out the assumptions.

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        A question isn’t an assumption. It’s possible to hold an idea in one’s head without immediately accepting or rejecting it. I also don’t see any problem with planning ahead. Why are you assuming I’m a dude?

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    I think most people here don’t really understand what’s going on here. Graphene OS is an Android mod with some extra security features designed to run on a hardened hardware. The main goal of Graphene OS is to protect users from some very specific attacks like some devices police uses to unlock phones or some targeted hacks by state actors. Unless you’re worried you may be targeted by such an attack and have some date you need to protect from them you don’t really need Graphene OS. You can run any of the other deGoogles Android mods on any hardware that supports it. You can already buy phones with pre-installed /e/ of iode ROMs. Many other phones support Lineage OS. Also, let’s keep in mind that GrapheneOS only supports Pixel because they don’t want to allow people to run their OS on hardware they don’t think is secure enough. It’s their choice not to support other phones.

    Also, Google still controls AOSP so this does not solve any of the bigger Android issues. Motorola forking AOSP and providing the resourced needed to keep the development going would be amazing news. This is just one phone maker promising to fulfill the security requirements of Graphene OS. It’s basically like Dell offering Ubuntu laptops. Good news but it will not have a big impact on the ecosystem.