Hey sorry if this has been asked before. I checked and didn’t see any posts, but basically is the kagi search engine worth it? I’m gearing up to cancel Hulu/spotify so I’ll have a little more money in the monthly budget and Kagi is one of the things I’m considering
Currently I use DuckDuckGo and it’s pretty good for me, but the main thing that makes me interested in Kagi is the ability to rank websites so they appear more or less often and the filter by type like academic sources or Reddit only.
I don’t really like ai stuff (not inherently, it’s just shoved into everything so I’ve come to hate it) but it seems pretty unobtrusive in Kagi?
I want to hear from people who actually pay for and use Kagi. Is the 300 searches a month enough for you or do most of you need the unlimited search plan? I know about the free trial but I want to know about the long term user experience
Edit: Thank you to everyone who responded!! I learned a lot about Kagi and I think I’m gonna end up getting the 300/mo plan and see if it’s enough for me. Thanks again! <3
I blow through 300 in less than a week.
Yes I’m happy with it. Kagi has AI features but I haven’t seen them, everything is opt-in. pushing that on me would be a deal breaker.
I’m a subscriber for just the AI, and it’s worth it for that alone
it’s nice that they manage to have that for users like you without impacting users like me :)
As someone who is highly skeptical of LLMs (and particularly the way the big AI companies are using, training, and marketing them) but not outright anti-AI as a rule, I find this interaction both wholesome and refreshing!
My partner loves it; I have not been willing to change my habits to use it.
One thing that I appreciate about them as a business is that if you don’t use it for a month, they don’t charge you. The subscription stays active, but doesn’t cost you anything until you start using it again. Makes it a low-risk subscription to get! (Please confirm they still do this, but it is how it worked when he signed up!)
I did see something about that but I thought I misunderstood bc it sounded too good to be true! Thank you for the reply!
I’ve been using Kagi for the last 2 years.
I use SearXNG for “easy” searches (eg: I know what I’m looking for or simply don’t know a URL by heart)
I use Kagi’s 300 search / month plan because for “harder” searches (eg: I have a problem I want to solve). I used to have the unlimited plan but it was not that worth for me and I dislike paying for AI features that I won’t use.
Thank you! SearXNG is like a self hosted thing right? I’ve only vaguely heard about it.
There’s a bunch of frontends out there you can play with, too
Have a read of this for an idea (it covers more than just SearXNG / search, however)
Whoops - forgot this little detail: https://github.com/benbusby/farside
Thanks I’ll check it out!
i got 3 free months in november and i grew very fond of it. now i have a family with 3 other people and they all really enjoy it.
idk how to describe it, using other search engines like ddg just feels wrong and like a lesser, more corporate internet experience.
i turned off the ai features and it’s not bothering me anymore.
just try the free trial or just get the lowest plan for a month and decide from there.
in my opinion it’s a really good product and even my non-tech-savvy friends prefer to pay for it than use other search engines.
the orion browser by kagi on ios is also great in combination.
I looked into the Orion browser a bit but it looked like it had a lot of ai stuff. Currently I use Firefox on mobile but I’m open to changing it. Thank you for the response!
It’s great in my opinion! I do need the unlimited search plan but that’s because I search so much. The AI stuff is pretty unobstructive too, and can pretty much be disabled if you want to. I like the way you can search lemmy with it especially.
Oh for real? Is there a shortcut like r!
You can make shortcuts/bangs, and you can create “lenses”, which allow you to create filter presets on your queries.
There’s a default fediverse one available.
I use it, I like it, though there is something in the back of my mind about the company that sets off alarm bells that I can’t quite put my finger on so I’m cautious. But I don’t mind the model of paying for online services in principle. I would say it’s about as good as DuckDuckGo was 10 years ago when it was still good (DDG has gone downhill like a lot of things in my opinion), and Kagi is the best search I can find now. I do research for work so I need the unlimited (middle) tier since I use a lot of search, I consider it reasonable value for money. I suggest doing the free trial and see how long it takes to run out before deciding which tier to choose.
Quite a few people have suggested that so I think I’ll end up doing the free trial then a month on the lowest tier and see how things go. Thank you!
I do not regret it.
I don’t really use the bangs to use Google instead like I did on duck duck go. I think I’ve used them a few times in a year, and heat when I was deep into not finding something which I continued to not find on google.
I haven’t had to rerank sites in a while
You can get the AI answers if you append a question mark to your query, or you can use !ki to use the AI researcher tool. It’s all opt in. They’ll also tell you how much of your AI budget you’ve used.
Under the good Kagi is an “AI” search engine using BERT architecture, which is similar to Google (it takes your natural language question and searches that, instead of classical keyword based search). That doesn’t mean it doesn’t work or doesn’t respect keywords, but sometimes you do have to quote keyword groups to enforce them.
I’m pretty sure their index is built at a higher quality than Google who are trying to answer every low quality query and maximize metrics.
That’s good to know about how the search engine actually works! Having the ai stuff be opt-in instead of opt-out is also a huge plus. Thank you!
I use Kagi! I average about 1,000 searches/month, so well in excess of the lower tier, but I started with 300 and there’s nothing inherently wrong with it as long as you only use it that often. I’ve grown accustomed to using search instead of bookmarks, and doing simple things like math in the browser instead of a dedicated app, which could help prune some of that usage.
You can use the 100 free searches to gauge how long it will last you.
I personally don’t have any gripes with it, between the ability to rank sites and their new initiative allowing folks to report slop sites, it seems to consistently keep me satisfied.
They do have a feedback site (https://kagifeedback.org/) where you can request new features and file bug reports. The advantage of a paid service is they are very attentive to user requests (within reason). Between their blog and changelog you can gauge how things are developing.
My budget has the flexibility that I’m happy to pay for a service that I use every day, which is aligned with my priorities. For those who don’t have that flexibility, Brave functionally (but perhaps not ethically) is a strong second best option. They’ve been copying Kagi’s homework for a while now and can do some of the same page ranking, etc.
This is really helpful! Thank you! I didn’t realize people could report slop sites. That’s a huge plus in my book
Do you know, if I type in a website in the search bar and go directly there, does that count as a search bc it uses the search bar, or does it only count if you actually load a page of results? Like if I go directly to YouTube.com or I just search YouTube and then click on the result, are those both considered a search, or just the latter? I would assume only the latter, but I’m not certain. If they both are considered a search then I’d definitely be concerned about having enough searches
It’s totally worth it. And you hit the major reason for me also. “Ranking” results is fantastic. And lenses, narrowing down results to academic sources is too useful anytime you want real info.
I started with the 300mo. I was able to keep under the limit without too much effort. But eventually I upgraded and it’s nice to not think about it anymore.
I had to do the unlimited plan tbh.
It offers AI search, but you have to click it or ask a question - I think it’s similar to DDG in terms of including it.
It really works as a complete search solution with maps, images, video, translation (actually the best translation site out there).
I find that I get good results, without much AI slop, SEO garbage, etc. When I use Google, DDG, or Quant on devices that are not logged in, I definitely notice it takes more effort to get to get to the results I want.
For me, it’s worth it.
I’m on the bottom plan. It works fine for me.
AI stuff is available, but you can also just turn it off and never see it.
The search results seem to have less garbage in them than DDG. I’m not sure if Kagi is putting more effort into their index or if they’re just not being targeted as much by junk websites. Likely both.
DDG uses Bing’s index I believe, so they’re just reranking results for you + proxying queries. The big indexes are generally low quality and DDG can show you only results from them. Kagi seems to train theirs on small web and uses user rankings to adjust, which helps a lot.
They are not without issues, they’ve been pushing for open indexing as indexing is getting harder due to AI scrapers. Cloudflare and Reddit for example make it much harder now (Reddit has an exclusivity deal with Google), but I do get results from both.
Letting users promote and demote domains helps individuals search results and gives them a lot of information for which sites are garbage too
That’s good to hear bc $5 is way easier for me to justify than $10. Thank you!
I wish they had an AI-free plan that was a touch cheaper. Really don’t want AI anything.
Yeah I just don’t want part of my money going to chatbot training through tokens or such.
I’m in IT so my searches are primarily geared towards solving technical issues. I’ve no complaints. The summarizer is also nice if you don’t want to read four paragraphs for two sentences of information.
I have used Kagi quite a bit, and while I love it, I stopped using it.
- It’s expensive.
- They don’t contribute to the open internet in any way. Its a closed product.
If either of these things weren’t true I’d probably still be paying for it.
It’s not expensive. For the price of a single cheap lunch. Your main gateway to the internet is no longer trying to use you to make money from advertisers. It has the largest most capable feature set of any search provider. Again for the price of a single cheap lunch. It would be the last subscription I cancel.
I suppose “expensive” is a relative term. It’s expensive for me, especially when the alternative is free.
I don’t know where you are. But in the US or most of Europe it’s roughly the price a single lunch. A cheap fast food lunch. If you have a hard time affording fast food once a month, I get it. But I’d easily skip one meal a month for a better internet.
Thank you for the response! I agree that the $10 plan is too expensive for me currently but since I’m planning on cancelling another subscription the $5 plan is something I could make work, if it’s worth it
Kagi is definitely worth it.
Being able to down/up rank results to curate better sources is awesome.
As far as AI goes, it’s easily ignored. However they also rank their AI models privacy policies, so if you ever DO wan to use th AI you can make an informed decision.
I didn’t know they rank the privacy policies. That’s pretty nice. Thank you!






