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We(Lemmy users) are adblock users and are tired of capitalism that ruined Reddit.

All of us didn’t come here to look at ads again or to entertain capitalist dreams of embedding ads everywhere.

My recommendation is clear, let’s ban watermarked comics and work towards ad free community.

At the end, music don’t have watermarks and neither do art. So why should comics have watermarks?

Linking to the source should be the primary way of attribution.

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    2 months ago

    no one should change artwork unecessearily without the artists permissions. I rather have more content than not. I actually don’t block ads all the time and don’t mind well regulated capitalism. Lots of use of all and we like its a 100% thing.

  • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    At the end, music don’t have watermarks

    You don’t listen to hip hop. They have producer tags, and I think some electronic musicians might do it too.

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    2 months ago

    Counter proposal: ban OP from this community along with anyone else who removes artist trademarks from comics they post.

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      2 months ago

      Can we genuinely bring this idea to the mods? Because I’m fucking sick of this guy. I don’t just want to block him because that’s the equivalent of sticking my head in the sand to not see his fuckery.

    • Beep@lemmus.orgOP
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      2 months ago

      Counter counter proposal: ban anyone who use this community to post ads.

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        2 months ago

        Sure. But posting the artist’s name/watermark isn’t an ad, it’s their artwork.

        Ban posters who modify artist’s work maliciously to remove attribution.

      • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        hey have you considered changing your handle to ▇▇@▇▇▇▇.org, to stop watermarking your comments? cuz right now, seeing your name, i feel advertised to tbh

        • Beep@lemmus.orgOP
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          2 months ago

          You can change the settings of your client to not show usernames and instead show only the name of the community the post is posted in.

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      2 months ago

      I’m going to block beep, but they should 100% be banned for being a worthless piece of shit.

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    2 months ago

    Are you puppeting your bot account right now so that you can evade a ban?

    Genuinely asking because this is just like. The worst take ever, but the time frame between the number of posts you post per day and the fact that there was a post recently about bots not being allowed all make me suspect everything you’ve said.

    • Beep@lemmus.orgOP
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      Keep suspecting then.

      I won’t entertain you for free.

      Do bad faith arguments with yourself.

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        2 months ago

        Is it advertising when I sign my tax return? Enquiring minds want to know. Cause I sure as hell would love it if the IRS didn’t know who I was or how much money I was making.

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      They mean like artist’s signatures or handles… Like the ones they crop out a lot.

      In fact this user in their recent posts has cropped out or even brushed over the artist’s name/handle. It’s gross.

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    The vast standard is music ships with the artist’s name baked into the metadata. It’s watermarked that way, kept in the fringes of the data, away from the main piece, just like a signature on the fringes of the artpiece. This is not new, nearly every artist does it. That’s often why we can ID physical art centuries later, and it’s why you rarely ever stumble into a song file you can’t identify the artist of.

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    While we could enforce the rule of link being the attribution, as a general rule it’s not what will happen when someone shares anything on the Internet. It will be ripped out of context and posted on random places with zero attribution.

    Exhibit A: yourself. Your post history does only occasionally contain links.

    • Beep@lemmus.orgOP
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      I avoid it because a lot of times the source is Reddit or Instagram.

      But if the rule enforced, I would attribute back everything. Because it became agreed upon this compromise basically.

      In short, I would link back even if to Reddit. But we need to have a standard here to kick ads out before I do that.

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    yeah I remember when they gave me a contract i put my watermark on with an ad of my brand (sometimes called full name).

    idiot.

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    2 months ago

    … Isn’t supporting and highlighting smaller creators rather than huge megacorps kinda a core part of the anti-capitalist movement?

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    Did the copyright holder (i.e. the artist) give you permission to redistribute their work without attribution? If not, it’s a copyright validation and illegal in most countries.

    I’m not really against pirating (you would copy a car), if you are taking from the rich. But that’s not the case here.

    And holding back information about the source of the comic is just evil to the readers here.

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        2 months ago

        .>

        <.<

        Stop calling out my laziness to open krita…

        I actually put credits on my comics as I actually need to edit them

      • They do…?

        Signatures and watermarks are in almost all works of art.

        A watermark on a piece of recorded music is something that is part of the digital composition. It can be in the metadata, it could be in the waveform itself. You’d only see it through analysis of the file.

        Same can, and often is, done with video. Even code for software.

        A good watermark is one that isn’t obvious, so it can’t be removed or tampered with.

        • Beep@lemmus.orgOP
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          You made a good point… For my argument!

          Music don’t contain watermarks that ruin the experience in the work itself.

          It’s available in text attribution/ metadata base.

          Leave the experience alone out of the attribution.

          • If you’re bothered by the creator putting their signature in the margins, where it covers nothing, that’s entitely a YOU problem. And since you constantly crop the signature off your posts, I find your engagement here to be in bad faith. Credit the creators and quit being a mook.

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            Music don’t contain watermarks that ruin the experience in the work itself.

            They do, and I find it a lot more obnoxious than a label in the borders on an image

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Producer_tag

            It’s available in text attribution/ metadata base.

            When I download a song, the file comes with the metadata. When I download an image, the creator information is not there. When images are shared, it’s very often the image alone and not a link to the page with the image.

            Also artists have been leaving a signature on their art for as long as we’ve had art. All people are asking is that you share the art as it was created instead of modifying each piece before you share it. By doing that, you’re deciding for other people what is best.

            This honestly feels like a good opportunity for you to make a separate community and post your edits there so that the people who prefer that format can subscribe to it.