Ah the good old epicurean paradox :3. The christian god can’t be all loving, all knowing, all powerful, and all present all at once, otherwise the whole religion makes no sense. If you solve that one you may become the new messiah, but otherwise the answer is “no reason” because none of it makes sense
I actually came up with a solution! Somehow it was missed by all the theologians over the years, but I’m quite sure it is a correct solution and out of the many solutions I’ve read, this is the only one that seems valid.
What if God is omnipotent, omniscient and perfectly good but just… isn’t very smart? He’s doing his best, okay?
You may wonder, if he’s omnipotent, couldn’t he increase his intelligence to solve this? Yes. Yes he could. If only he was smart enough to realise that =(
But omniscient means having knowledge of everything, so he can’t be dumb, cause then it would mean there’s something he doesn’t know :3
Having information and being able to use it are two separate things.
it sounds like you’re flirting with the Epicurean Paradox
I understand the epicurean paradox but I also understand for god to exist as some believe it would have to be paradoxical. I also understand that any true religion, anything not just societally and culturally forced, would not take hold as a probability based on geographical location of birth. I believe in a god that can give humans divine inspiration but I do not believe in a religion that is just a long tradition of group think. Any god that choses to create these structures of religion and call them right and just is of no interest to me.
I like that guy jesus, tho. He was a bro.
Aha! The question that has many pastors digging deep to get a good answer too. And usually they end up with the age old “mysterious ways”.
The “best” one is usually along the lines of: god wanted a relationship which involves choice and free will, so he had to create a division that would allow humankind to have a choice in the matter.
So god feels lonely, causes all misery on earth that ever was and ever will be. Because free will… On top of that he also
indirectly(oh screw it, it’s god) directly causes eternal torture in the afterlife for a vast majority of humankind. Because also, free will (I keep stressing that because that in itself is a huge problem for theologians).And then all that leads to god killing itself in the form of its own son. Because some of you touch your own genitalia in glee.
Genius.
Jason got it? Jason? Well, this is a new low. Yeah, this one hurts.
The Jewish interpretation is that Eve ‘knew’ God wanted Adam to the eat the apple, so she tempted him with it.
what a disgusting god. People actually believe this shit? God WANTED his creations to be kicked out of paradise? Holy fuck, and people say he is “all loving”. JFC.
Yeah, that story has a lot of plot holes.
If I’ve learned something from listening History in the Bible podcast is that Yaweh is an asshole and that there are layers of bad translations.
The story was adulterated, & that is visible in the text of that part of the bible, there was no apple.
“women ate of the fruit of the knowledge of Good & Evil ( MORAL UNDERSTANDING ), & shared that with men”.
Yes, mothering enforces more moral-understanding than does male-ego-persuits, traditional or modern.
As women have noticed, & evidence absolutely does back it, women bring life into the world, & men persue killing, consistently more than women do.
( the insecurity displayed by the “god” of that story is idiotic, & the blunt fact that help has been provided to humankind, repeatedly, since then, falsifies the message in that part of their bible that “god” wants us kept down, as pets: it investes in our evolving, & there’s even a book specifically on that, though from an Abrahamic-religion perspective, called “The Evolution of God”, which … isn’t written by a believer, but comes to the conclusion that someone has been cultivating evolution, consistently, among the peoples of that “god”. )
The “grace” left-behind by ones who experience moral-anxiety is the “grace” of being mere-animals, who don’t have moral-anxieties.
This is an absolutely-factual metaphor/parable about the mere-animal ancestors of humankind vs the moral-anxiety/moral-difficulties condition of our “generation”.
Also, there’s another corroboration, but much more recent…
there’s a yt vid on how Gobekli Tepe somehow was a metropolis without agriculture: Natural Abundance was sufficient for them to do that, & they didn’t break their ecology, the way we do…
But you’ve still got the “grace”/“non-grace” difference between the people who just lived in natural-abundance & didn’t break their ecology vs our-generation…
Oh, & as far as I can tell, the Abrahamic-religion authorities are looking totally at the wrong frame-of-reference, in trying to discern where the “Garden of Eden” was: it means Earth, not some limited-locale of it.
Earth was pristine, lush, drenchingly-alive ( I’ve read that the cod were sooo thick in off the Atlantic coast of Canada, that the fishermen said you could walk from ship to ship … exageration, certainly, but … the fish were, on average, 80y old, back then, & huge. Nowadays, they’re … a few years old, 8yo was what I’d read last century, & then we broke the coral-forests they breed in, & the cod-fishery collapsed, & never recovered. We’re incompetent at preserving natural-wealth, & we do it in ALL contexts, all fisheries, all forests, … where’s all the BEST farmland on Earth? under concrete, because we converted it all to cities, since that was where the people were.
Idiocy ).
We’re destroying the Garden of Eden, globally.
No matter: The Great Filter, our species-puberty, will force-exterminate our race, if we won’t grow-up quick enough, completely enough.
Natural Selection, but at planet-scale.
& finally, free-will requires ability-to-choose-wrong.
Puppets aren’t what we are.
( it is continuums/souls which are ChildrenOfG-D/CellsOfG-D, it isn’t our-lives/incarnations: those are children-of-souls, so grandchildren-of-G-D )
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Why are there two different creation stories in the Bible? If Cain and Abel were the first sons of Adam and Eve, how could Cain come upon a city while he was wandering the earth? Why are there two conflicting versions of the Ten Commandments? Etc. Etc.
