Looking for stories of times you interacted with a criminal organization in any capacity. Were/are there any infamous locals frequently talked about in your area (please don’t dox yourself). Please give a genuine answer not a political stance. The only one I think I’ve had was a story I’ve told here before about having met an Aryan brotherhood guy when I was 12ish.

  • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    19 days ago

    This one time, I tried telling some mob guy that he was funny.

    He did not take it well.

    But turns out he was just fuckin’ with me.

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    20 days ago

    I would say ‘Nice try FBI’, but this was back when I was a child, so fuckit, here goes…

    Back when I was only 7 years old (1989), living on a ~40 acre horse ranch/junkyard, my dad and his friend decided to teach me to drive a stick shift truck. Plenty of open space ya know, so yeah…

    Anyways, dad’s friend literally told me to drive through the pond in the back end of the property. It was only a couple feet deep anyways, so it shouldn’t have been any big deal right?

    Well, we did exactly that, drove through the pond, only for the truck tires to end up completely shredded. So like what the actual fuck?

    Apparently I ran over a bucket to a bulldozer buried in the pond.

    Well, as we came to find out later as time went on, the previous owner of the property had been stealing bulldozers and other county equipment, grinding off the serial numbers, repainting them, and selling them back to the county.

    Yeah that caught up with him, I never actually met the previous property owner, but that motherfucker also had people removed from the gene pool if they reported him…

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        19 days ago

        You laugh, but that guy and his associates had all the equipment and then some to do such things. And apparently, snitches didn’t get stitches, they got a hole through the gut, tied to a cinder block, and thrown off a bridge…

        That’s the only reason dude got caught, one of the bodies got thrown into a shallow area and the next day the tide went low and was clearly visible to people that like to fish under that bridge.

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    20 days ago

    I was driving on I-70 and saw a member of an MC execute someone.

    One of my dad’s friends is in a local chapter of the same MC.

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        20 days ago

        Motorcycle Club. It’s the “friendly” name for a biker gang. MCs swear up and down that they’re not gangs, because anti-gang laws allow authorities to take all kinds of extra gang busting measures against them that normally wouldn’t be allowed. It’s the biker gang equivalent of “we’re not a pyramid scheme, it’s multi-level marketing!”

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    20 days ago

    I knew someone who lived in the same block as a well known motorcycle appreciation society. It was an incredibly clean and safe area. And the local dive bar was fun without a hint of shadiness or trouble. They did not shit where they ate.

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    20 days ago

    When my girlfriend’s dad was a kid he was once paid very good money to help unload crates off a boat and not ask questions

    Also, and even less directly relevant to my life, I live a couple blocks away from a very famous dead gangster’s old hideout. One of the members of the gang, who lived down the street from me, went on to have a fairly iconic role in a classic mob movie

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    20 days ago

    I grew up in a town where it was general knowledge that retired Italian mobsters retired to.

    They made sure that town was clean, safe, and with very little crime. Chased out encroaching gangs and were generally an overall positive for the community.

    Since they stopped retiring there a few years ago, the town has gone to shit.

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    20 days ago

    I worked near a clubhouse which used to be a lot more publicly active, in a trade that used to skew a lot more “rough”.

    I heard that they trafficked women and that they would come to the job site to “work”. There were people with serious drug problems who could not be let go because of their affiliation. This last one I find the hardest to believe for some reason but apparently people were pressured into buying t shirts? Like with the clubs name and logo. Seems strange.

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    20 days ago

    I went on a ‘Business Enterprise’ programme back in the UK in the very early ‘90s. Basically it was how to run a business 101. Six sessions on different things: accounting, HR, etc. etc.

    One of the other guys on the course turned out to be the son of the biggest coke dealer in the city.

    He was a nice kid. By the end of the course a bunch of us had bonded and someone invited us all to a house party.

    The son of the coke dealer turned up with a briefcase literally full of cocaine. That was a fucking awesome party, let me tell you.

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    20 days ago

    I had a friend who lived deep in the ghetto. So deep she was swarned by cops on multiple occasions while going home because “the only reason a white person would be in this area is to buy drugs.”

    Her next door neighbor was the largest xanax dealer in the city, and there were a few sell houses on the street.

    Everyone there was amazing. They were all super friendly and we got invited to parties and BBQs constantly.

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    20 days ago

    The overriding memory of that life was right at the beginning when an old timer that I’d just started to roll with told me this: “There’s no such thing as victimless crime - so choose your victims carefully.” That really stuck with me.

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      timer that I’d just started to roll with told me this: “There’s no such thing as victimless crime -

      The only victims of the crime of cannabis possession are the people who get arrested for it.

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        19 days ago

        Hey, let’s not forget the victims of trafficking that got to become indentured farmers at the behest of criminal overlords in jurisdictions where cultivation is criminalised.

        Let’s not forget the militias that get armed via resin and kiff sales.

        Let’s not forget the corner boy who gets nanked for slinging off the wrong curb.

        I wish the ganja business people were more like their target audience in demeanour; but criminals always going to criminal.

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          17 days ago

          Every single thing you listed is a direct consequence of cannabis prohibition.

          It only has victims because it is illegal. Which was literally my point.

          Who is going this deep and up voting the pro-cannabis prohibition comments? Weird. If I didn’t know better, I’d think someone was using alts.

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      20 days ago

      There most certainly are victimless crimes. Who’s the victim when a woman gets a dog to lick peanut butter off her vagina? It’s certainly a crime in most places.

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        Just like smoking crack - the human is both the victim and the perpetrator in that crime.

        I’m all for kinks and all that, if it floats your boat, but “cross-species” romance, absence of consent or liking humans that are “a bit too young” is where I’d have to draw a line.

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          All of the examples you just gave are not victimless crimes. Besriality is an abuse of power and at best coercion but more normally just straight up animal sexual abuse. Absence of consent is just rape, and children can’t consent to sexual activity. Unless you dont consider animals, people, or children to be capable of being victims none of those are victimless.

          Kinks are consensual, that is the difference.

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          19 days ago

          I’m all for kinks and all that, if it floats your boat

          That’s nice - but certain kinks and LGBT relationships were illegal for a long time, and still are some places. Are they victimless crimes then?

          If yes, do you think that your specific society crossed a threshold at some point going from a legal system with victimless crimes to a legal system without victimless crimes?

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            Anyone who grows up thinking that two - or more - consenting adults can’t live or love together is a(nother) victim of that (in the legal sense only) “crime”.

            Where I currently live there is an old and much copied legal system but I’m not really qualified to think about nor answer your second question.

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              Anyone who grows up thinking that two - or more - consenting adults can’t live or love together is a(nother) victim of that (in the legal sense only) “crime”.

              Ah, but then they’re a victim of the illegitimate criminalisation of LGBT relationships, not the victims of the LGBT relationship itself. Meaning the crime has no victims, the law has victims.

              Where I currently live there is an old and much copied legal system but I’m not really qualified to think about nor answer your second question.

              Sure you are, don’t put yourself down like that. All citizens living under a law should have their say in the justness of that law.

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                The “crime” only exists because of the law; so a person coaxed to bigotry from a young age would still be a(nother) victim of said “crime.”

                But this is just an opinion, from me. It’s fine to not agree; in fact it’s good.

  • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Very pleasant for me, my girlfriend in the late 90s and early 2000s was a mildly upmarket dealer, and I got work through her contacts which was usually safe. I ended up doing a lot of work through her dealer, who was the big fish in a town of about 300K people.

    I got nice presents, got paid to chaperone his daughter and her friends for a week (free holiday!), got better work contacts for myself, very cheap electrical goods, free drugs, and had a favour I never got around to calling in.

    I did spend a day digging up his garden looking for a nine bar of resin that he’d buried while high, which was hard work (we didn’t find it), and there was a time I was interviewed by police while I was hiding enough speed in my house that it’s sale could have bought said house, but it was otherwise just an informal business relationship with occasional blowjobs.

    10/10 would do again.

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      19 days ago

      but it was otherwise just an informal business relationship with occasional blowjobs.

      Blowjobs from whom? Hopefully they weren’t also dealing in human trafficking…

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        From me.

        He dealt in drugs and kept in his lane, but knew how to get pretty much anything for a price. And I became part of that anything.

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        It was a mixed bag TBH - that girlfriend was very abusive, and sometimes when I received a work request is was heavily implied that it would be a bad idea to turn it down … though I never had any trouble from any of those clients.

        I ended up with a drug problem - at least a couple of codene and a dab of speed before my feet hit the floor getting out if bed, and then more stuff through the day. My kidneys are pretty fucked.

        But, the positive experiences were very positive, and I gained a lot of life experience which still comes in handy to this day :-)

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    Having been a young white dude in the US, ive had all of the various christofascist or conservative terrorism organizations make a pass at me at one point or another.

    Turning Point USA was recruiting from my school when I was a senior (right when it was starting up), a couple of the kids at my school were fairly well known for being in the KKK, and they tried to get basically every white kid at the school to come to their events. My college was a fairly small STEM college, so unless the FBI or the CIA count as organized crime, we didnt have a lot. After college the job market was still awful from Bush’s recession, I ended up with a job in a small town where the KKK, the Proud Boys, and the Republican Party held a weekly rally at the towns main intersection and liked to block traffic and generally be a nuisance…but the police chief liked to show up to the rallies (all 3), so you just learned to avoid certain areas on certain days.

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    Years ago (early 90s) my mother had a female friend. The friend had an uncle “Tony” no idea if a real uncle or just friend of family.

    My mother’s friend also had a sister who was engaged. One night sister and fiance got into a fight and it hit violent. Sister ended up in hospital for a week, several broken bones and multiple injuries. Somehow, “Tony” found out. The next morning the boyfriend woke up and left the house for work. He never showed up to work. He never was seen or heard of again. Maybe he’s buried, maybe he’s in the walls of a building or under the pavement of a road. I have no idea, but sister got a beating and when “Tony” found out he ensured the guy would beat anyone else ever.

    Thought of another instance, even less details on this. Coworker was from Trinidad. One day he didn’t show up, ok cool everyone takes time off. Next day he is also not at work, I ask manager and told “he had a family emergency”. I think it was a week later he returned and I was curious and talked with him. He told me he had relatives in Trinidad and one started a new job at a port basically checking to make sure fees were paid and paperwork was filled out. There was a boat with a shipping container that was not documented and was not labeled. He opened container, supposedly top to bottom, front to back was white powder. I assume coke but could be anything. He closed the container and kept silent to not cause issues with the gangs. He went home, told family what he saw over dinner, then went to bar for a drink. Next morning he wasn’t in his bed. He wasn’t in the home. He told someone what he saw and that was a mistake. The ship was docked and allowed to leave. Maybe corruption, maybe not… Don’t know, don’t want to know.

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        19 days ago

        For first situation, fuck people who beat their partners. This wasn’t a “I was drunk and slapped them” situation which is also horrible and should never be done… She had i think a broken arm, 3 broken ribs, nose broken, and life long issues with her hip after that. This was a serious assault. I don’t technically know if “Tony” was part of a “family” but this was ny/NJ in late 80s early 90s and he was a older Italian man who wore suits but I never saw go to work and I was simply told to show him respect and don’t ask too many questions (I was a child, maybe 7 or 8 when this occurred).

        For second situation, if someone has money and power to have a shipping container full of “drugs” yeah… They have money and power to disappear a person.