I’ll start with mine. clears throat
“65% of Hazbin/Helluva fan comics, fan animations/animatics, fan fiction.etc are unironically better than anything Vivziepop has ever made in her career!”
Feel free to down vote me and called me a sleazeball douchebag troll.
there are some truly incredible works of art that would have been worse if not for the people in charge of them being abusers (see: crystle castles, stanley kubrick).
i don’t say this as a matter of defense or to claim “the ends justify the means”. just that if these people weren’t monstrous pieces of shit, their creations would be less raw and emotionally moving.
per the examples above alice glass and shelley duvall gave incredible, gutwrenching performances and they were driven by their mistreatment and pain.
Artist: writes poetry for a few years then kills girlfriend and then self
200 years later people: Oh, he was so passionate!
I’m reminded of the supposed exchange between Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Olivier on the set of Marathon Man. Supposedly Hoffman stayed up for three days straight to get into the physical and emotional space of his character, and Olivier criticized the choice by saying, “My dear boy, why don’t you just try acting?”
Actors are trained to deliver performances. Their job is to believably convey emotions. If the director can only get the performance he wants by abusing his cast, he’s a horrible communicator and has no business in the director’s chair.
Alternatively, if we believe actors need real experience and emotional depth to draw on for a performance, we should get rid of stunt doubles and special effects. How can I believe Hayden Christensen’s pain at the end of Revenge of the Sith if he actually still has all his limbs?
Counter point: David Lynch was famously very pleasant to work with according to the people who have worked with him, and he got some incredible performances throughout his career.