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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9525207
The fake money for criminals is the best because there’s a lot of people that aren’t criminals that have bought in on it and among those the concensus is “I think a bunch of IT neck beards can build a better financial system better than the one that evolved over centuries”.
The delusion is laughable.
Is a currency really that much better if it’s less stable than balancing two pyramods on their respective tips?
Bitcoin is the youngest currency around and u like all of the other currencies it isn’t mandated or controlled by governments. If inventions have to be 100% perfect out of the gate then you’ll never get anything new.
Bitcoin is the youngest currency around
No it’s not, it’s the oldest (and as such, the worst in almost every way) crypto.
Right, Bitcoin is older than gold, or the US dollar, or the British pound, France’s franc….
Uh maybe try reading my comment again?
Why? It doesn’t say anything different this time around.
Ok then I don’t know what to tell you.
Is your brain just skipping the last word because it comes after a parenthesis?
Hint: I said it’s the oldest and worst crypto.
Unless I’ve missed some huge news, none of the things you snarkily listed are cryptos.
You have to understand that I’m trying very hard to not be an asshole right now lol. Just read the entire goddamn comment
I think it had it’s time to cooldown from the extrme speculative volatility. It has lost it’s coolness factor in the mainstream after NFT and AI took over.
Still as volative as ever.

You can’t tell me a 11% drop in value can be considered a valid alternative.
You can’t be serious. Bitcoin is less than 20 years old and for most of that time almost everyone thought it was a joke. Most still do. Your timeframe for stabilization is disconnected from reality.
Honestly I think pretty much anyone could build a better financial system, and more people should try. What we have now is the result of centuries of unchecked power. This monetary policy was created by Richard Nixon and then we adopted a Keynesian rationale post facto. It didn’t evolve, it was stolen.
If you’ve got another idea (including moneyless systems) I’m down to try that too, but what we’ve got right now is pure garbage, and having no out before the modern era doesn’t imply that it’s good.
The modern banking system and monetary policy was created under FDR. Nixon just stoped pretending it was backed on gold and told de Gaulle to kick rocks when he asked for the gold back.
Realistically the changes under Nixon are peanuts compared to the digitization of it all since the introduction of systems like Swift.
You say that like Nixon wasn’t unilaterally breaking the Bretton Woods Agreement. No offense, but are you an American?
Yes I am an American and I know what he did, but I also know that the Breton woods agreement was only a small part of the financial system, and that realistically, the economic downturn of the 70s was far more heavily impacted by several oil shocks and the hangover from massive spending on Vietnam.
I think it’s very true, but cryptocurrency is not the way to go
fake money for criminals
are they talking about crypto or fiat? because it’s impossible to tell.
The unconstrained expansion of credit following the end of Bretton Woods system could only lead to the long term devaluation of the currency, something that’s theorically infinite is also inherently entropic.
They’re the same picture.
All money is fake money for criminals.
Without glasses, I thought that said “illegal crab company” and I was all in.
that’s what I read with glasses, and I thought it was about garage crab farming
Again, I’m all in.
I feel like this is something I’d hear discussed on the Park After Dark podcast (Trailer Park Boys thing, now with 100% less Bubbles for obvious reasons)
I prefer ethically sourced crab, tbh. I actually like the vat grown seafood because it is better for the environment and fresher inland.
Before I go all in with you, I have to know- is this an illegal company where crabs are the product or where crabs are running things?
It can be whatever you want it to be, baby.
Wait… You’re a baby crab, right?
Yes
No law can stop carcinization.
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Citizen Sniiiiiiiiiiiips!
Ride sharing, short term rentals, Crypto, and AI?
Oh no the terrible ride sharing!

Wrong definition there bud.
Yeah, when it was “Hey, I drive to work every day, anyone else on this same route want to pay a bit for gas and share my ride?”. It was kind of fine.
But now its just flat out people’s “job” as a cabbie without proper cabbie regulation.
Sure, as long as everyone’s going to the same place at the same time, and washes and doesn’t blast horrendous trap music on a JBL.
Ride sharing does not remove cars from the roads, typically they take only one person to one place. Actual solutions include LRT, BRT, Metros, U-Bahns, S-Bahns, and REM style automated light rail.
it reduces cars in public parking lots and spaces though, which is nice
But those cars are now in the streets moving to the next customer, basically trading parking to traffic
Yes but at the direct cost of drivers that tend to be more reckless
ime rideshare drivers are generally incredibly good at driving, so I trust their judgement. Are there stats that they get in more crashes?
Ridesharing still gets you the 33 cars.
I’m paying $900 for a short term (week and a half), last minute, airbnb, I’m meeting with a potential roommate tmr to move in on the 1st. Paying real rent instead of paying airbnb hosts.
Correct.
Fake money probably, it allows me to easily buy drugs from online.
If people value it I guess it isn’t so fake. Most “legit” currencies are just the goverment promising you its worth something anyway.
A government promising it’s worth something carries a hell of a lot more weight than some random tech-bro promising it.
Crypto doesn’t have value because tech bros say it does, that’s not how it works.
In both cases the trading value of the currency has almost nothing to do with who originated it, and almost everything to do with how the general public feels about it.
Just like crypto, most “government” currencies are worth what they’re worth only because everyone agrees that they are. That’s called “fiat” currency. And that’s why fiat currency exchange markets exist. The US Dollar hasn’t been “convertible” (redeemable for a fixed amount of precious metal) since 1971, and many other world currencies were already backed in some way by the US Dollar at that time.
The real difference is in the supply.
Government fiat currency is difficult to counterfeit, although the government (or reserve bank) can always make more whenever they want. We trust them not to print more money, increasing the money supply and devaluing the currency. However, this is exactly what has happened sometimes in the past, and no doubt will happen again in the future.
Crypto currency is virtually impossible to counterfeit, and IIRC there’s a finite (but not precisely known) amount of it that can be made, no matter who you are.
Personally, I still use physical fiat currency and no crypto. I’d like to use crypto, but regulation in my country makes it very difficult to use without registering your details with a central authority. And although everyone’s pushing e-money options which are similarly tracked, thankfully I still have the option of using anonymous cash.
I don’t do anything bad or illegal. I just believe that government and big business don’t deserve to know everything I do in my life simply because they want to.
You can use crypto without those registration if you know where to find locals who are willing to trade it for cash. It’ll be just like finding a local dealer.
I tried looking at dreadforum to see how markets work nowadays and found out in a minute I was viewing a mirror that was injecting links
I think I’ll just ask a dude on the street at this point
But then again I am in a country where that would work with 0 negative consequences for me as the user
Doesn’t dread’s captcha force you to check the url? Afaik it makes you fill in specific parts of the url, so that you check that the url you are using is the same one they are using. Curious how the mirror was able to bypass that.
Regardless I just spent some initial investment saving the pgp public keys and making sure they are legit, so that I can use them to verify dread’s mirrors.txt whenever needed. Faster than walking out to the street imo
It’s my first actual visit, and I did what apparently is the obvious faux pas
I googled for dreadforum link, was pointed towards one shown at https://dreadforum.io/
I entered it into tor browser, no captcha was shown and I landed directly on the site/mirror.
The one post I read, something concerning validation and opsec on markets or dreadforum, had an explanation that if the text they wrote in hyphens differed from the url right under it I was already viewing a mirror, as they spelled out a link.
That was true, the url shown was darkmyurl dot com instead of the actual link spelled out hyphenated.
I was humbled, and have now learned that even asking for the true php keys from you right now is submitting to defeat. The only good opsec seems to be your own
honestly, I wouldn’t be so hard on yourself. This stuff is way harder than people think. People don’t realize how hard it is to establish trust starting from none. Normally you type a website into Google, and Google has already done the work for determining which website is the legit one and which is the shady phishing site, and will filter out the shady site. This convenience does not exist for darknet sites, so you just have to establish trust yourself.
even asking for the true php keys from you right now is submitting to defeat
not necessarily. You can get the pgp keys from random strangers online. It’s just not the only source you should rely on. Get it from multiple sources and then verify if they are all the same. If they are, think to yourself how likely it is that all 3 sources are actually the same attacker giving you a fake key.
DM me if you’re actually interested in the pgp key and I’ll dig it up from my notes
You just reminded me that it’s been a couple of decades since I Candyflipped. Need to do that again soonish…
Monero my beloved…
I believe in a future where we won’t need money anymore, but in the meantime, Monero is a pretty solid choice.
Fake Money for Criminals.
Turns out things for criminals sometimes can be an okay thing for noncriminals.
Say your country makes baby formula illegal to push some breastfed is the only way agenda, would you consider a mother buying formula online with crypto a criminal?
Legal != Moral
Yes, because criminality has nothing to do with morals. If the state views you as a criminal, you are a criminal. That’s why some criminals are still good people and cool.
Be gay, do crime
I wouldn’t say it has nothing to do with morals, since (at least hopefully) it’s our morals that help guide us when making laws.
But yes, illegal does not necessarily mean immoral, and vice versa.
Also, buying explosives and fake documents. 🥰
The things I like are cheap…
Just be a fake criminal to get infinancial from the CIA OG WHAT IS THAT ME OF SHIT I GEYS GROST OF HAUNTING AS I DO TO MY OWN SELF WANTON WANTED DID NOT WHEAL MBOATS.
Its an old meme And it all started with illegal banking for musk and their… That should make the cut
It doesn’t have to be like this though.
Here, for example, Uber is not allowed and Airbnbs are regulated
What country and why?
Italy. Because you need a license to be a taxi driver, and a random company cannot hand them out (and the taxi drivers union is powerful and corrupt). And because the government gotta know who is renting a room where, you can’t just go wherever you want without anyone knowing, especially foreigners. Whenever you rent a room in Italy, the owner will take a picture of your ID/passport, and send your data to the local government. Also you gotta pay taxes on the rooms you rent.
The only things we Italians we are good at is making many regulations, especially ones for safety lmao
See: building regulations
Rare Italian W
(Okay, maybe we are great at doing some regulations, we lack a lot of stuff that is normal for other countries and a lotta of rights…)
I’m not sure that I would consider “we don’t have Uber because the Taxi industry is corrupt” to be a win
I’ll never not upvote this meme
I’ll never not upvote comments about upvoting this meme.
i’m going with the fake money for criminals, cuz sometimes the criminal in question is a trans person trying to get their medicine
to my great annoyance, almost all diy hrt online can only be bought using crypto. and wow does it make you hate cryptobros to have to navigate an ecosystem clearly designed for speculation to get your life-saving medicine 🫠
You’re doing crypto a favor by keeping it at least 1% still anarchist.
Can’t you just hold your money in a stable coin like USDC to avoid the volatility and speculation?
the homebrewer i was buying from didn’t support this one, so i would’ve had to convert it, which means fees typically
anyways, i don’t really care to maintain a crypto portfolio. i buy the coin when i buy the thing, so volatility isn’t too much of a concern. my main annoyance is at the bonkers fees that exchanges want because they (rightly) recognize cryptobros as a milkable consumer base
Could use localbitcoin.com (or localmonero I guess), though it’s been so long since I’ve been to those sites that I forget if/what kind of cut the website takes.
But yeah, dunno if you can avoid fees when cashing out to fiat. And if you’re using non-kyc sites to swap Monero, they’re likely taking some too, for the convenience and privacy (worth it imo)
hmm, i’ll look into that next time i buy hrt. thank you!
Localbitcoin and localmonero are arranged peer-to-peer transactions that I think people sometimes even do in person. So be safe.
You hate the people behind the ecosystem that enables you to get the medicine you require?
i hate the people who turned a way to pay for things anonymously into a stock market.
that sucks mam.
I hope eventually there are less dumb ways to access the stuff for you.a
Yup, the AI is definitely “the plagiarism machine.” 🤣 I’m using that from now on.
I want a none of the above option.
16th repost of this meme in 2 years that i’ve been here.
I know this is programmer humor but as a tech guy who actually likes tech that isn’t destructive, this just makes me sad
I love em all except the coins at the outset. Uber is too expensive these days but air bnb is utterly fantastically.
Is it? Because for any lodging of minimum quality, hotels are cheaper nowadays.
That just not true across the board. I’ve found solo they are expensive but compared to getting a suite at a hotel they are competitive. You ain’t beating the king room at a Hilton though, agreed.
It certainly isn’t true AT ALL for group travel. I regularly stay in very nice homes for under $150/night per person.
Uber is too expensive these days
That was always the goal. Uber and Lyft prices were heavily subsidized early on. Their investors poured billions into them in order to not just establish market share, but tk drive existing taxi services out of business. Taxi services that had things like: fleets of company-owned vehicles instead of personal vehicles, commercials grade maintenance schedules, stricter licensing requirements for drivers, unionized employees instead of independent contractors, etc
Uber and Lyft just plain ignored a lot of existing regulations by saying “those don’t apply because this is an app” to legislators who were too old to know how to turn on a smart phone. They got the public on-board by temporarily offering artificially low prices and high payouts to drivers. Now they have established themselves and removed the competition, so the payouts are going down and the prices are going up.
There are still some US cities that do not allow Uber or Lyft to operate, and there are other countries in the world that do the same.
It’s still miles better than Cabs, I can’t believe this even has to be argued! When was the last time anyone here defending cabs/shitting on Uber actually took a cab somewhere?
The few times I had to/decided to take a taxi, I got absolutely ripped off. And with an Uber, even if it’s expensive, you at least know before hand how much you’re paying. You can decline if you think it’s too much. Good luck trying that with taxis.
I couldn’t give a fuck any the regulations. They sucked and did nothing. Cabs were broken and Uber fixed that shit right up.
How were they broken?
Scamming, not showing up, not servicing 'those people '.
It’s funny you say that, because I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve been cancelled on by Anglo uber drivers.
👌👍 cabs were great
They weren’t. Uber isn’t either.
Your point?




















