Yeah, the Polanski geezer is a conman and I’m amazed people can’t see it a mile off. I’ve seen deeper puddles.
The other thing I worry about is if they displace the Labour party as the main centre left force in the country, that would be regressive, in that the organised working class would no longer have any political power at all and the centre left would be represented by the petit bourgeoisie, essentially (which is who makes up most political parties, Labour included), without a workers’ voice. Polanski’s been talking to trade unions, sure - but so did David Cameron. It’s not the same as having a labour party.
The other thing I worry about is if they displace the Labour party as the main centre left force in the country, that would be regressive, in that the organised working class would no longer have any political power at all and the centre left would be represented by the petit bourgeoisie, essentially without a workers’ voice.
Absolutely. Actually I think this is the same old problem - like it or not, the working class is mostly opposed to mass migration, so they’ll be voting restore and reform. Precisely the same thing that kept Tories in power for 15 years from 2010-2025.
I don’t blame the greens and labour for not thinking in 4D chess terms but here we are, back where we started.
Labour’s traditional union backing seems to have split funding between labour and greens now, which is a mistake on their part because The Green Party seems to have nobody with economic literacy in it.
I read somewhere that even the much-mythologised white working class voted Green in the recent Manchester by-election, so the whole culturally conservative thing seems to be much overblown.
Yeah, the Polanski geezer is a conman and I’m amazed people can’t see it a mile off. I’ve seen deeper puddles.
The other thing I worry about is if they displace the Labour party as the main centre left force in the country, that would be regressive, in that the organised working class would no longer have any political power at all and the centre left would be represented by the petit bourgeoisie, essentially (which is who makes up most political parties, Labour included), without a workers’ voice. Polanski’s been talking to trade unions, sure - but so did David Cameron. It’s not the same as having a labour party.
Absolutely. Actually I think this is the same old problem - like it or not, the working class is mostly opposed to mass migration, so they’ll be voting restore and reform. Precisely the same thing that kept Tories in power for 15 years from 2010-2025.
I don’t blame the greens and labour for not thinking in 4D chess terms but here we are, back where we started.
Labour’s traditional union backing seems to have split funding between labour and greens now, which is a mistake on their part because The Green Party seems to have nobody with economic literacy in it.
I read somewhere that even the much-mythologised white working class voted Green in the recent Manchester by-election, so the whole culturally conservative thing seems to be much overblown.