No. That user chooses to use that instead of “th”.

Community moderators can’t instance ban. Only instance owners and appointed staff can do that now.

Won’t pretend I understand this but it reads a lot to me like if a mod decides to ban you because he doesn’t like an opinion or something you get banned from the whole of piefed.

No, it doesn’t. It means that if piefed.social bans you (and you’re based on a piefed instance) you wouldn’t be able to post on any piefed.social community. That previously didn’t happen, and you could still post on communities from instances that you were banned on - they just didn’t federate out. This was a blindspot as trolls could continue to harangue communities on instances they were banned from locally and the community moderators, not being from their instance, would not even know.

It would not affect your ability to post anywhere else on any other instance in those specific circumstances.

Yes yes, I know, it was a very bad instance, but I don’t think it’s a good reason to make this decision in all the other instances.

I think that if someone is banned from an instance, it makes sense that they literally cannot post or comment on any community from that instance. The ban may well be unjust, but I think if an instance is run like that to begin with, and you don’t like it as an instance admin - that you have bigger problems.

Well, in that case, even though I’m ethically opposed to that person’s treatment of animals and don’t want them around any of our users, I believe in the principles of the Fediverse strongly enough that I think they should be able to post their hamburgers to the .world local copy of our food community, and share their burgers with the .world people who like to see hamburgers. Even though I think they’re doing a bad thing, I support the rights that enable them to do it.

I don’t, really. I think this is a hole that is being used for abuse and niche cases don’t really justify the utility of this vector for harassment and annoyance being plugged. There are plenty of other cooking communities banned users could post to.

Maybe, if we get into the meat of this it could become some instance-level setting, but I think this is highly niche.

Well it means that if you were currently banned from lemmy.zip, you would be barred by these changes from posting or replying to any community based from there. You would see the message in the screenshot.

So the Piefed change does impact Piefed users banned from Lemmy instances. It’s just that the reverse is not true.

I’m not familiar with that drama, so I’m going to pretend that user came from .world to make what I’m about to say easier to explain. I think that’s a .world problem. .world users will see it, report it, the report will go to .world admins. Then, the .world admins get a chance to home ban this user, which sounds like it was sorely needed, and if it turns out the .world admins are okay with gore, then they can act according to their own values.

That’s a flagrant example, to be sure, but users can get instance banned for behaviour patterns for less noticeable than that but still be able to comment on communities they are instance banned from. Note that as Lemmy works now, there are already some hard bans associated with being instance banned. When you are banned from a Lemmy instance, you are also automatically banned from communities on that instance that you have interacted in prior. It just doesn’t extend to communities on that instance that you have not posted in.

Also, there are instances that are less moderated than .world that a specific instance banned user operating like that would be a longer problem.

Of course I personally don’t usually agree with gore posting in the way it sounds like it was being done there, and I’ve removed a couple of gore posts from our instance that came from other instances. But some people actually like seeing gore, it doesn’t bother them. The two biggest examples of gore that people might not find offensive are guro porn, and meat. I wouldn’t remove guro porn if it were properly marked as NSFW and had the right content warning. And I know a lot of other instances are okay with posting meat. Hexbear allows meat if it has an appropriate content warning, for example. Oh, and how could I forget, video games. If there’s a c/doom it should definitely allow video game gore!

No, in this case it was directly against the specific communities rules - but because the user doing it was already instance banned, their gore-posting was not visible from the communities home instance perspective. They weren’t posting it in a gore-relevant community.

I’m not sure I agree with this one, actually. If one of our users is banned from a remote instance for reasons I disagree with, I might still want them to be able to talk to our users in the comments on that remote community.

The trouble is that if they’re a problem user, and being realistic, many would be - the community moderators wouldn’t be able to see what’s going on as the comments they post would not federate out. They would effectively be unmoderated.

We had a situation where a user recently banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone was still posting gore to lemmy.blahaj communities on their instance. Obviously it wouldn’t federate out, but people on that same users instance would still see it.

That’s what prompted me to try and deal with this issue, at least from Piefed’s perspective.

The last part is not included with the new changes. Basically this change only effects piefed-based users. I was suggesting at the end that a way be incorporated from Piefed’s end to automatically throw out comments or posts from Lemmy users posting in instances they’re banned on so that they don’t even appear locally on their instance - but that isn’t currently possible.

We have to wait for Lemmy to implement this change from their end for it to be universal.

I think people consider sexual assault differently here, although I’d note that Harry Potter is probably way more of a global phenomenon than Gaiman’s stuff which plays into this too.

I mean this thread does have -27 downvotes

The top 20 posts in any community are from power users and/or mods of such community.

Power users and/or community mods tend to want the platform and their community to succeed, so are more motivated at pumping out content that otherwise wouldn’t be there.

!howlingmutant@lemmy.world

You want Lemmy servers to shut down?

On a side note it feels like a lot of Lemmy servers are suffering financially and might close soon

What ones exactly?

Yes, it can. I’m from Piefed.social.

Lemmy.world has about 40% of the pop these days.

Reddit is apparently going to put a stop the autoban bots.

Many of whom won’t be based in the USA.

You want a “papers please” internet and technology sphere, and you’re calling for this on a federated platform heavily populated by people who want to get away from all of that. What sort of response do you expect?

There will always be sites that don’t care and won’t comply with any OS level restrictions in the first place. You will never solve this.

Also, in the USA - there’s no suggestions floating around for a 16 or under age ban on accessing social media, moreover, I’m not sure if that specifically is even constitutional.

Well if you specifically want less 4chan adjacent content, piefed.social.