

You’re pointing to countries that still have police as evidence that we don’t need police?
Man, ACAB arguments have flatlined.


You’re pointing to countries that still have police as evidence that we don’t need police?
Man, ACAB arguments have flatlined.


Cops are a few hundert years old concept why would they be necessary now when most places they barely existed pre ww1.
LOL, wtf are you smoking, dude? This is why conversations about this topic on Lemmy are so consistently bad; ACAB folks just make shit up. Societies have had police in some form or another since practically the beginning of civilization. And to the extent that they didn’t, crime was up and vigilante justice was the only recourse.
You’re a damn fool, and I don’t take you seriously.


All of those instances are examples of either cops not doing their jobs or the law being imperfect. Problems like that will always exist but that just means we need to focus on fixing them, by changing laws and instituting better systems for policing the police. Getting rid of police as an institution is pointless and fixes nothing.
I agree we need reforms in both law and police departments, as well as a better institution than “Internal Affairs” to keep cops in line. More essentially, we need to change the cultural problem at the heart of police corruption. Regular psychological evaluations, deescalation training, and an active stance against authoritarian personalities in police need to be adopted.


Uh-huh. So, in your fantasy world where cops don’t exist, who intervenes when someone inevitably commits a crime?
I’m sure you’ve got some version of Social Workers with Enforcement PowersTM in mind, but all that really amounts to is Reformed CopsTM. So, just admit ACAB is your anger-fueled generalization/oversimplified solution to a complex problem and say you want police reform, like the rest of us sane people.
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