If somebody posts a swastika, and uses it to critically talk about the nazi history, or the fertility symbol aspect of it, it’s not the same as if you’re posting it without comment in the context of a debate about racism, or in a PoC forum, etc.

Context matters and changes what it is we’re looking at.

Is it desirable to platform a community that basically says “jerking off to underage girls, but legal”? To put it another way…

I would like to imagine fedinsfw as something beyond the boundaries of ordinary porn sites. It can be so much better. And I say this regardless of this aspect we are talking about, though, just to keep in mind.

Alright, I don’t care about the legal argument. That’s for other folx to deal with. I care about a nice more or less ethical porn site.

And btw. Multiverse also agreed with the law, and I can see why.

I get the point of slippery slope arguments. So here’s the potential harm I see, which I think you’d agree with is passing a point on the slope we don’t want to cross: normalizing indulging in the sexualisation of minors, or just straight up normalising the sexualisation of minors.

If the community calls itself fauxbait, the mental process is one of sexualisation of minors, even if it isn’t what’s depicted. Just like a written story is just ink on paper and no performer is hurt, it’s about the mental process.

They are not looking at these adults and thinking about fucking an adult. Just like the brain would do with a fictional story.

It’s not just about the age of the performers, though. I also think most people here care more about actual harm than legality.

To me it looks like it’s about platforming the indulgence of the sexualization of minors. In a fictional sense, but still. Should they allow written rape fantasies of minors?

I’m gonna lean towards that this is rather normalizing and harm producing than helping people. I would love to read science on this, but this is not my field, so hard to research myself.

Oh yeah, Dune is really cool :) It’s only really through the fediverse that I got back in touch with fantasy. I see so many good titles mentioned. And after reading that really heavy stuff it only makes sense you’re going for something lighter!

I think I’ll create an account on StoryGraph and message you to add me, as your profile is private :)

Very different stuff. Due to chronic pain that affects my focus, I’m not reading thaaat much anymore, especially stuff for leisure, as it’s even harder to focus when I’m supposedly relaxing. :)

The closest, I guess, is Homer’s Odyssey as an audio book (Emily Wilson translation) which I’m currently enjoying. In the beginning I thought she’s going way too much into all the stuff surrounding the story, but after a while it made sense, and I’m grateful for it.

Something I’ve read recently-ish: Psychopaths Anonymous by Will Carver. Kinda literary fast-food, unless you have an interest in the theme, but still both gruesome and funny. I think True Crime folks would enjoy this.

The novel Children of Gebelawi by Naguib Mahfouz. He is a legendary Egyptian author. Someone told me he’d write his novels sitting outside cafes after work.

Also by an Egyptian, and an easier read, I think, Beer in the Snooker Club

Also currently reading: Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends - Spencer, Lewis. This is somewhat leisure, I think, but non-fiction of course :)

In a similar fact/fiction vein, I’m also working my way through: Strange Stories, Amazing Facts Stories That are Bizarre, Unusual, Odd, Astonishing, and Often Incredible.

One of my favorite authors remains Haruki Murakami. Wind-up Bird Chronicle is my absolute favorite novel. Norwegian Wood, and ‘Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World’ come close behind.

Broken Phoenix by Edmond Manning is something I really wanna read, to get some fantasy in there, but couldn’t get my hands on yet 😭

What kinda stuff do you enjoy?

Glad you enjoyed it! Unfortunately my memory is really bad on his books. And what I liked back then as a teenager I might cringe at today. :) I think these two were my favorites.

I remember reading Brighton Rock while in Brighton, though. It was written as a money-spinner, but apparently had pretty good reviews and he was happy with it. One site says it’s one of his most famous works. Again, I don’t remember anything about it 😅.