• toynbee@piefed.social
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    1 month ago

    Back when I was in college, I was young and dumb enough that I’d login to AIM on the college computers. (Nowadays I won’t login to personal accounts on anything I don’t fully control. I’m always surprised by coworkers who check their bank accounts, social media, personal email, etc. on their work laptops.)

    Anyway, even at the time I was pretty good at logging out when I left each computer, but once I forgot. The next time I logged in, I was surprised to discover that my entire buddy list had been cleared. I never understood the motivation behind doing so. I don’t think it was particularly funny but, even if it were, it’s not like the perpetrator got to see my reaction or even to point and laugh.

    I did learn a lesson from it, but presuming that that was the mission of whomever did it feels … Generous.

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    Timmy was later arrested and charged with violations of the CFAA, SCA, and ECPA. He faces 20 to life.

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        Briefly: look into sim swapping, which is the most obvious, day to day risk.

        Then there’s SS7 and how inherently trusting the whole system is.

        Then depending on where you are, some mobile networks still have terrible link encryption (were talking so bad a normal laptop is enough these days to break it on the fly). Granted, this is rare these days, in part thanks to the efforts of Karsten Knohl, SRLabs and other security researchers who did a lot to shine a light on this and SS7

        Not sure how up to date it still is, but https://gsmmap.srlabs.de/ shows how unequal networks are.

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          That’s all sms though, not 2fa in general.

          All valid points and good information within that scope.

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            (…) and sms is an insecure system to begin with.

            citation needed on the second half

            That’s all sms though, not 2fa in general.

            Are you an LLM?

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                  I don’t think the original text before edits is viewable by anyone other than possibly instance admins.

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    A non-tech store had some iPhones and iPads on display. No internet. But it COULD connect to my phone hotspot. Wish I did something more than just download a rainbow six siege pic and set it as the wallpaper, but they took down that demo for I think close to a month.

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      It’s like when people think VPNs will magically prevent their credentials from leaking while they’re giving them to some sketchy website

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        1 month ago

        But the YouTuber that sold me my VPN said it kept my online data safe (whatever that means)

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    I dont care for 2fa. Not interested in having my phone connected to my computer, and i dont like having an extra step when logging into stuff – especially an extra step that needs me to use a second device. Id honestly rather risk getting hacked over ever having to use 2fa again.

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      MFA (a better term IMO for this) has nothing to go with phones, per se.

      It’s just about reducing risk by adding more proofs that the person claiming to have the right to do something has indeed the right to do something.

      Unless you have excellent password hygiene (long, random, different for every single site and service) the likelihood of having an account taken over goes up quite fast. The overwhelming majority of the population doesn’t, so forcing a second factor is a good way to limit damage.

      If you don’tt like the multi step process, look at psskeys. They aren’t perfect, but they offer nearly all the security benefits of MFA without having to go throughthrough multiple steps.

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      Use a Yubikey. It’s a small USB Device you can put on a keychain. It is still a second device, but it’s not your phone. And you always have your keys with you, anyway.

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      Why do you think you need to connect your phone to your computer?

      You do know you can just generate codes and neither device will know of the others existence, right?

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        I have no reason to believe that the google authenticator app on my google phone doesn’t register and record that it’s being used to log into XYZ website, and further that XYZ website is not then sending back unique identifying info to Google about me when ive used the code to log in.

        I’ve lived with tech long enough to know that if they say “we absolutely don’t,” it really means they probably do.

        Like when they swore up and down and gaslit us that our phones aren’t listening to us to generate ads.

        How many lies can I believe before I begin assuming everything is just another lie from a liar?

        Guess im paranoid.

        But that whole thing ignores that it’s an annoying second step with another device. Like “you want to log in? Thread a needle with the string in your pocket first…”

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          But then just don’t use google authenticator and instead one of the FOSS alternatives? Aegis comes to mind.

          Like the original reply to your situation said, you do you - but this seems a weird threat model to me, extra-step point notwithstanding.

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      This makes me mad but I have absolutely no justification. Like, it’s your life. But I am incensed. Godspeed.