cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/8915892

(original article in Swedish that reported this)

Posting this because I hadn’t heard about it before and I’m probably not the only Mullvad user here, so might as well.

I’m not Swedish, but going off NATOpedia, it seems like the party is basically reinventing fascism from first principles:

The party claims to stand for a “class-conscious populism” which according to party leader Markus Allard takes inspiration from marxist ideology and unites the “productive” classes of society against the “Transferiat”, with the “Transferiat” being a term coined by Allard to describe the classes of society that lives off transfers that are a net negative for society such as those who, despite having an ability to work, live off social welfare benefits, as well as those who work “made-up services”[…]

The party differs from modern day left-wing parties by seeing the working class as co-dependent with people working in enterprise and business and instead sees the classes that “live off transfers”, as specified, as a large economic net-negative and an obstacle for a functional society.

visible-disgust Their ideology is nonsense fake-marxist revisionism to redirect anger at capitalism and turn it against immigrants and people who need social welfare (though they do back some generally left oriented social policies, their main thing appears to be racism)

Even if you’re comfortable with funding this, it still begs the question of just how trustworthy Mullvad actually is.

I guess this still beats any of the dozens of Israeli VPNs that definitely spy on you, but it’s not great emilie-shrug

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    With this the only European browser is Vivaldi, by its own structure as a cooperative, owned by the employees, quite far from the right. The only thing they sponsor is a local football club in Iceland.

    I hope that KDE would improve one day its independent Konqueror browser (KHTML/ Qt engine, ancestor of WebKit and Blink, Linux only), to have some more alternatives in the EU. It works as browser AND file manager, but due to a good improvement very slow nowadays.

    • marcie (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      8 days ago

      Mullvad browser is still mostly maintained by the Tor project and doesn’t phone home, still one of the best choices for a no fingerprint browser even if you use a different vpn for it. Biggest downside imo is it’s not on Android. It’s entirely FOSS and again, no phoning home on an action, so it doesn’t matter what the creator thinks.

      My personal use case for tracking is different from others, I mostly want to avoid surveillance capitalism. It’s genuinely a problem for my PTSD, if I talk about my PTSD on a corporate app I’ll get spammed with triggering shit 24/7 because they like to spam you with “solutions” and self help and news for crimes against women like it’s my special interest. Obviously I would love to avoid state surveillance but you’re not getting that from any vpn server domiciled in the west, it’d have to be in a geopolitical enemy of the west e.g. Russia or China or Serbia and most people would not like the latency that involves.

      • G_M0N3Y_2503@lemmy.zip
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        8 days ago

        If you cut out buffer bloat it’s easy to forget that everything is only slightly slower, it’s the inconsistency in the latency that makes you really notice. With a base of ~130ms when it doubles for those first couple of packets of every page load you really feel it, as long as it’s smooth, your brain can adjust.

        I have it for my whole house and no one notices/complains.

        https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat https://github.com/lynxthecat/CAKE-autorate

        That said, it’s kind of niche then more niche to run it on the VPN too, I wish it were more accessible.

      • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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        8 days ago

        FOSS nowadays is less and less a guarantee, since Google, M$, Amazon and Fakebook are one of the biggest contributers of FOSS (naturally all with their corresponding tracking APIs). Currently the company ethics, transparency and trust are a very important. At least for me, it’s not acceptable when a service is used to sponsor right wing or nazi parties. It’s not direct Mullvad, but their CEO paid by this product. Faschism is advancing in a creepy manner and at least I’m not willing to support it in any way.

        PD. TOR was developed by the US army and secret services and they still owned the onion server. The future and free internet will not be the Onion, but I2P and decentralized networks, out of the reach from big brother corps.

  • T0RB1T@lemmy.caEnglish
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    7 days ago

    Once again, it feels like too much money and power just makes people into freaks. None are completely immune, too few are effectively resistant.

    When money makes you complicit in the system where money is power, there is no way to leverage money to fix the system unless you’re somehow completely insulated from direct personal gain.

    Morality, ethics, humanity… These must be maintained, have we all just moved on? Maybe it’s just me that’s given up.

    • JillyB@beehaw.org
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      7 days ago

      I believe that a person’s world view, ethics, moral system, etc is almost entirely molded to fit their incentives. When I was a manufacturing engineer, I was effectively automating people’s jobs. I created an elaborate narrative that not only let me off the hook, but made me the good guy. I was making the workers more productive and therefore setting the stage for them to negotiate better pay or treatment. That plant closed down 3 years later.

      If everyone who punched a child in the face received $1000, people would initially be appalled by anybody who would take that money. After a while, people would start to fondly remember moments when they had been beaten or hurt. They would consider it a vital part of growing up. “Pain is what makes us strong”. People would proudly announce how many children they had punched. It would completely change the morals of everyone with the opportunity to receive the benefit.

      Many people have personal evidence of this. A work friend suddenly becomes a prick when they get promoted to supervisor. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”. “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it”. In this case, A CEO feels his power in society threatened and he adopts whatever politics is needed to ensure he retains power. He isn’t doing this out of cold calculus. He will actually believe the politics because that’s what fits his incentives and makes him the good guy, actually.

  • sp3ctre@feddit.org
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    8 days ago

    It’s pretty easy in my opinion. We see, that right wing shit spreads around the world.

    My consequences will be: Any company supporting this shit (even indirectly) will not be paid with my money in the future.

    Too bad my subscription for a year has been paid a few weeks ago…

    • Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.frFrançais
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      9 days ago

      Far right needs to track their targets. The nazi had IBM census machines to better identify jews, and right now, Palantir fucking exists, and its founder is well aligned on left-right.

    • ZeroHora@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      9 days ago

      I’m very confused by what you mean with this. It’s like saying human basic needs doesn’t aligns with left-right spectrum, like no shit!

  • bitwolf@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    8 days ago

    So… Is there any VPN provider without controversy?

    I think Mullvad was the last one I knew of.

    They’re eighter lying about logging, lying about backdoors, or apparently Nazis?

  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
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    7 days ago

    You can really tell how cut-throat and efficient the free market is when founders just have millions spare knocking around to play at Blackshirts.

    • nevyn@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      9 days ago

      somewhere between sfa, and bugger all

      ivpn, or airvpn would be good ones to consider. The majority of others seem very dodgy, and some are right wing already.

  • hneerqe@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    This is why I don’t like any people and none of their parties.

    Years of uncompromised world class service. Then a person there has the audacity of having a political view (shocking!)

    Now they suck and should be boycotted. This is how ingrate you look, we were lucky we even had mullvad in the first place.

  • gleaminggoat@sh.itjust.works
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    8 days ago

    This seems pretty sensationalized. Wikipedia does not classify them as a far right party. “Some key issues for the Örebro Party locally include strong secularism, a 30-hour workweek with retained pay, lowered wages for politicians, expanded social housing, abolishing preschool-fees, making public transport free of charge,[4] ending taxpayer funding of what it sees as wasteful sculptures, monuments and art and introducing free dental care.”

    Yeah those Nazis are always for sure advocating for social housing and a 30 hour work week. /s

    • kossa@feddit.org
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      8 days ago

      Very convenient how you skipped the next sentence:

      Nationally the party has set out large-scale remigration

      Oh, wow. Remigration is a link to another wiki page. Let’s learn something about it:

      Remigration is a far-right concept referring to the ethnic cleansing via mass deportation of non-white minority populations

      Uh. That sounds pretty Nazi to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • axx@slrpnk.net
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      8 days ago

      Yeah and it’s not Mullvad itself but the cofounder with his personal money (which of course he has for being the Mullvad cofounder and handsomely paid co-CEO, I expect).

      Still, nuance?

      • nevyn@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        8 days ago

        The post should have been deleted, it appears to be deliberately manipulating the discussion/reality.

    • JillyB@beehaw.org
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      9 days ago

      He’s a fascist. Part of fascism is co-opting Marxist talking points but pinning the blame on other working class people. The reason fascism comes about is due to a worsening life for regular people, leading them to believe the current system is rigged against them. Marxism tells them there is a different way and blames capitalism. Fascism tells them there’s a different way and it’s blame other working class people. Existing capitalists, like Daniel, see the Marxists as a threat to their power and throw their support behind the fascist to maintain power.

      Listen to a lot of Trump’s campaign speeches leading up to the 2016 election and it sounds like stuff from the occupy wall st movement, right up until he starts railing against Mexicans. That’s what fascism is.

    • ViatorOmnium@piefed.socialEnglish
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      9 days ago

      That’s a fascist position even if it came wrapped in a pseudo-marxist wrapping.

      There’s a world of difference between “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” and withholding basic needs.

      • Saapas@piefed.zipEnglish
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        9 days ago

        I’m just saying that it’s not like it is a position unfamiliar to self-described Marxists since it was brought in by Lenin and was even part of Soviet Union’s constitution.

    • doleo@lemmy.oneEnglish
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      9 days ago

      It seems to me that one of the key reasons that modern Marxists are angry with views extolled by people like this Mullvad guy, is that this notion that undeserving people are lapping up public funds and holding the rest of us back is normally a play straight from the far right playbook.

      This not only distracts from the fundamental issue that we’re facing, with a group of undeserving people lapping up all funds, public or otherwise, it also gives fuel to an unjustified claim that was only created to sow seeds of division in the working class.