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In whose fucking universe is MAGA considered a ‘moderate right’ position???
In a Nazi’s mind.
It’s not even the good midwit format lol
They’re right, left and right are swapped.
The corner of the chart, on the left-hand side, is the origin, where zero is. Are you trying to say that leftists are low IQ or something else?
What Anon felt like after posting that:
The bell curve part is fine. It’s the correlation between IQ and political orientation that is not. One of the biggest fallacies in life is that being smart automatically makes you a good person. It does not, and it also does not determine your political affiliation.
This! If intelligence were to make you make good choices, intelligence agencies would have no employees.
Most of intelligence is simply having less morals than the regular person.
We got this gal for possession of two joints, we’re now forcing her to go undercover in a crack den where she could, and did, get murdered.
We need to know how America built nukes. What if we just paid someone to give us the information?
We need to know America’s military innovations. What if we gave an incel a submissive asian GF?
We need a brain dead yes man for China. What if we gave him a submissive asian wife?
We need a mole in the CIA. What if we gave a guy a bunch of money?
Are you willing to force a random woman to spy for you, whore herself for her country? Are you willing to bribe randos for intel? There are creative ways but sex and money dominate that field.
Oh and I almost forgot. What if, for absolutely no reason, we paid hookers to sneak LSD and other drugs into their Johns and filmed it using taxpayer money?
What if we knew about an international pedophile ring, a comically compromised individual who will sell anyone out for a buck. What if we had a heart-attack gun and did nothing with it, you know like just let a comically evil person just live their life. Oh, the rich murder pedo is running for president? Nah, we have no obligation to do good or protect America.
For the most part, intelligence agencies are anything but. They are however, comically corrupt and ineffective.
Yes and no. My first thought of intelligence agencies was in the direction of the NSA and its brothers and sisters. For the CIA part i am fully with you. Just a bunch of amoral leg breakers. But the NSA attacks on cryptography algorithms and the predictability of random generators do indeed need some great minds.
I guess the curve here is iq is the vertical axis and political orientation is the horizontal axis.
I am gonna take a guess and say that he thinks y-axis is the IQ and x-axis is some other random variable like it is a scatter plot except it isn’t.
isn’t the x axis just political orienration? Probably represented 0-1 or 0-100 0 being right and 1 left of course.
No no, anon’s got a point
I mean they’re calling someone on the internet an imbecile. Easy win.
While the meme is funny, IQ is a bullshit statistic.
A somewhat useful statistic.
If you speak english poorly, you’ll probably score low on an IQ test. If the test uses cultural motifs that you’re unfamiliar with, you’re more likely to score low on an IQ test. There’s many ways that IQ tests can give terrible results, so it’s not really that great at gathering reliable data about someone’s intelligince.
Not really, it’s highly misleading and is used to justify bigotry.
Lots of things are used to justify bigotry. If you assume that subjectively negative attributes are a result of heritage rather than upbringing, you can use anything to justify bigotry.
For native English speakers, IQ largely correlates with general intellectual ability. People with higher IQs are generally more capable of understanding more complicated topics. It’s not a moral failing to have a low IQ, and there’s no reason to assume it’s genetically heritable or innate and immutable.
The problem is that IQ is very poor at actually identifying “general intellectual ability,” as “general intellectual ability” is not a linear spectrum but a highly complex and multi-faceted phenomena.
Yeah, it is a single one dimensional number that attempts to represent a multidimensional system. But also you can pretty well predict whether someone is capable of, like, standing trial or something if that single number is particularly low. It does correlate with a real phenomenon, if not perfectly.
I’ve seen enough court cases where people did not have the reasoning capability to understand the situations they were in. Not bigotry, I do believe IQ can be increased and has a lot to do with upbringing, access to info, and opportunity.
But there are people who are unfortunately dumb. Not to mock them, but understand we need to come along the simple to assist them. Because it makes for a better society.
People can have less or greater cognitive ability and understanding. Trying to quantify it as IQ does, however, results in extremely misleading outcomes.
Yup. But it is not a horrid starting point. There is always a better everything.
Just because one finds fault does not mean that one can not also find use.
The problem is with how it’s used in general, which results in ableism and bigotry.
By a few. Don’t let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.
Sure, so what’re its uses?
If a younger kid has a lower IQ then figuring out what skills they are lacking in to help them improve. For an adult if their low IQ score comes from lack of reading comprehension then you can assist that. The tests can help target the areas of lack.
It is not a static part of you like your height or wingspan. It can increase and decrease because of a variety of factors.
Yes, absolutely. But how does an IQ test help with that? If someone has a low score, you then need to figure out what skill is lacking. That requires another test, no? How is assigning a point score helpful?
I don’t know of any education system that relies on IQ scores, yet they are usually set up to address shortcoming in skill or education. They do this via targeted tests and education programs. I don’t personally see what adding IQ would add.
Agreed, indicating deficiency requires more nuance than a single score. The only thing IQ by itself has been used to is to either “give up” on a person because low IQ or to falsely elevate a person for being “super smart” and breed obnoxious elitism. Mensa itching to tell folks with a high score on a single test that they are better than everyone else.
Not really, as we can dramatically increase iq with wealth.
If true, then it would provide a way to redistribute wealth and measure the collective impact on IQ in a quantitative way, which would indeed make it a useful statistic
Let me know when we do wealth redistribution, lol.
These are not mutually exclusive statements.
For example I exfoliate with nickles because money reduces dumb dumb.
MAGA is moderate?
Everyone is moderate… in their own mind.
If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator.
I think it stems from a profound lack of political education and decades of political propaganda. People think moderate means ‘sensible’ and radical means ‘unreasonable’.
Of course most people think of themselves as ‘sensible’ or ‘moderate’.
Being the most left wing in the US doesn’t make you even remotely extremist.
The US is very right-wing.
Being very left from a US PoV is actually moderate from other places’ PoV.
Everyone is moderate… in their own mind.
I’m not.
I was using hyperbole to make a point. You’re not sensible?
I’m not a moderate either.
I’m not a moderate either.
Good. I hate those.
If you both don’t moderate yourself, and I mean fast, I’ll have to call the moderator in here!
Eeverything in moderation… Except for me
You’re all individuals, you have minds of your own!
If you poll
Democratic Partyvoters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator.Let’s be real here. Back before MAGA was a thing every Republican I knew, and I lived in the deep south so I knew a lot, liked Bernie. If the elite hadn’t done everything in their power to kneecap him he would have swept in 2016 and we’d be living in a completely different world today.
Bernie would have won and Libertarians would receive gov money for their party and campaigns on the level of Rep/Dems.
My fav conspiracy is that Gary Johnson actually got enough of the votes to meet the criteria for the party to be solidified. But the powers that be couldn’t let that happen and scrubbed his % just below what was needed. THEN they changed the rules again that a 3rd party would have to get more and prolonged support.
My pet theory is that idiots subliminally think “centrist” means “central” as in “center of the universe” and it resonates for them. IME the stupidest people are also very self-centered.
To a “”““centrist””"? Yes.
Centrist is maga without red hat.
I mean there definitely could be a chart that looks like this. But I doubt it does in this case. I’m almost curious to see what it would look like but I don’t have that much respect for IQ as a measure of anything meaningful anyway. But my guess is there’s probably not much difference between IQ across the political spectrum. Perhaps slightly increasing as you move left due to more educated people leaning left, and I would expect there would be some association between IQ and education.
For an example of something that looks like a normal distribution but really isn’t:
IQ is a racist bullshit measure invented to exclude black people from the military and education. It’s meaningless in all cases.
Yeah that’s kind of what I was referring to.
Bell curve produced by the standardization of paper testing… Congrats on measuring for “good test takers”. Operating well for office authorities and score approval.
…but that’s not the same as intelligence. So it’s already bullshit vefore you overlay the ideological stuff on top.
Most people are centrist, most people are average iq. It checks out
Most people are decidedly not centrist, at least not in modern developed countries with their famously polarised politics.
All policies and political structures should be tested to see their influence on HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Whatever improves people’s lives should be kept and whatever doesn’t should be ignored. Why have beliefs when we can have knowledge.
why have beliefs when we can have knowledge
Do you know how hard people are to manipulate once they have knowledge? We can’t go around informing people, it would be anarchy!
There’s a country that appoints leaders for 3-5 years, and then measures stuff like human health, gdp, poverty, and uses this information to determine where to assign them next, if at all.
Because humans are storytellers, not scientist by nature. Better (and not necessary for plebeians) story, bigger impact. For example religions or money have diminished our freedom-loving characteristics to almost none-existence, but they sure are good concepts to knit us together to form a society.
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