• Phantaloons@piefed.zip
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    3 months ago

    Yay! but the Ukraine war effort Boo! but less space junk! Yay! but all those just… normal Starlink customers who need internet Boo! but fuck Musk! Yay!

    I’m gonna need a drink.

  • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This feels like one AI civ making a pact with a lesser AI civ that is already bogged down in war and clearly won’t win the military victory it’s going for, so that once it has run the course of its use will be invaded and incorporated with the bigger civ.

    They’re also already been sending settlers to the African continent, if it was me I’d be restarting the game because any turn now they will conquer Asia, Europe, and Africa, and achieve either a cultural or military victory by doomstack.

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      2 months ago

      Honestly, they are so cheap compared to anything that could kill them. The best passive defense strategy is to just launch more.

      Obviously there are lots of active defense measures that would be on the table. But that would likely be the chosen passive defense strategy.

      • 0x0@infosec.pub
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        2 months ago

        Hopefully elol gets the point that he cant take up unlimited place in space for his 5g radars, sharing is caring

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    they already have anti-satellite missiles, they just need to build alot of them. or have jamming satellites of thier own,.

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          2 months ago

          I suggest reading the Kessler syndrome article on Wikipedia. The short of it is that not all that debris is expected to come down.

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            2 months ago

            The Kessler syndrome was a proposed scenario, not a scientific study. A hypothetical.

            This article is about countering Starlink. Starlink satellites are in such low orbit, they de-orbit by themselves and fall back and burn up in the atmosphere very quickly if they don’t correct their orbit regularly.

  • plyth@feddit.org
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    3 months ago

    That is inevitable. The sky will be filled with the trash of struck down satellites and nothing can leave earth for a while. Before starlink, China had already demonstrated that they can shoot down satellites. No investigation needed.

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      2 months ago

      filled with the trash of struck down satellites

      It’s already full of trash of operating satellites. Starlink is very very low orbit. When pieces go in random directions (assuming significant enough vertically), they either go back to the atmosphere (air will stop it, duh) or slightly higher up to be in an orbit that’s original height on one side and slightly higher on another.

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      3 months ago

      Even the worst Kessler syndrome scenarios don’t stop new satellites from being launched through the debris-containing altitudes to reach clear orbits.

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    3 months ago

    We already have the technology if memory serves. Since civilians are the last to know, there have probably been satellite killers in orbit for years.

    It’s fun for Musk to get fucked, but I believe Ukraine uses Starlink to defend itself

    • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 months ago

      I recall hearing about a contract with some EU based company too, though. For both one way and two way satellite IP. No idea if that’s still in effect. Also no idea if Starlink is still in effect. Well, apart from the star-to-cell bullshit Kyivstar is trying to do with the AI generated landing page. Or were trying earlier this year.

      Also, I recall someone complaining that if you order Starlink for one location and then put the unit in another, it will go “roaming mode” and limit speed. Doesn’t hurt too much but that sucks! I would imagine that if you are stationary enough you may as well take time to set up line of sight directional antenna shit on land to some other object.

    • it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems
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      2 months ago

      It’s not even secret, there have been highly publicized tests of ground- and air-launched interceptor missiles, and a fair few tests observed by amateur astronomers where military satellites rendezvoused and closed to observation/weapons range with dummy targets. It’s very hard to hide anything that happens in orbit.

  • Dpek@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    According to the authors of the concept, if the resilience of a satellite constellation is ensured by its sheer number, then the response should be a weapon cheap enough to destroy satellites faster than SpaceX can launch new ones.

    Smells of the good old forgeting that the target wont just sit by

    At least they arent putting everything in one basket this time with physical destruction being the last option

    Whats a satellite constallation destroyer but a anti ICBM weapon under a diffrent name?