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- cross-posted to:
- politicalmemes@lemmy.world
- science_memes@mander.xyz
The only reason I keep Facebook is for unhinged stuff like this
The only reason I keep Facebook is for unhinged stuff like this
“Proof of effectiveness” means a placebo controlled trial. Preferably multiple, with sample sizes substantial enough for sufficient statistical power.
Or we could just start selling placebo tablets and make a fortune. I have some clay in my garden that should be easy enough to shape into pill shapes. We could even paint a few of them red and sell those as extra strong.
Not hurting anyone…
Um Clay would have an effect. Use powdered sugar and simply compress them into a pill. This is literally one way they do already make placebos in pill form. You can buy a pill press on amazon
Sugar isn’t great for diabetics. Wouldn’t clay just pass through as it has no nutritional value.
Well sure but you could use other household ingredient that aren’t contaminated with whatever might be in your soil.
It was intentional that i said it’s one way they already make placebos in pill form.
It entirely is only important if you care about hurting people and not just stealing from them.
Which you seem to since you are arguing over diabetes
People eat clay sometimes. IIRC its a famine thing used to bulk out actual food to make it feel slightly more filling.
Pills are tiny. Wtf do you think the soil is contaminated with?
ah, that makes sense.
Does that still apply if the underlying mechanism isn’t understood?
I know examples of this exist already , I’m wondering if “proof of effectiveness” really means just the effectiveness in this context.
We are only ‘pretty sure’ of the mechanism of how Tylenol works biochemically as of 2025.
You can test for effectiveness and dangers and everything else you need to prescribe something to get a good idea of whether its actually doing something or not.
‘Alternative medicine’ is largely, “I felt better after a bit”.
We didn’t know how alcohol worked but it was still an effective medicine for battlefield surgeons through history.
Effectiveness is independent of mechanism. As an example, to my knowledge SSRIs don’t really make sense but mostly outperform placebo.
Agreed,
Pretty sure anesthesia is similar, (in the not fully understanding the underlying mechanism)