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Fourth-most important city is the one geographically closest to you. For all others, it’s DC.
This is the true answer imo
CityNerd covered it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrj-p5nja7o
What was their conclusion?
The US has a primary city (NYC), a top-3 (NYC, Chicago, LA) and a top-5 (NYC, Chicago, LA, SF & DC). Asking for top 2 or 4 is too hard to call and just asking for trouble.
What in the world makes San Francisco a top city? Like maybe in the 60s…
Silicon Valley. It’s the most expensive place to live.
So it’s like this:
1st tier: NY
2nd tier: Chicago & LA
3rd tier: SF & DC(Finally learned how to do a single line break on Lemmy - put two spaces at the end of the first line, then Enter)
Holy fucking shit.
It works!This is
revolutionary
Atlanta or Seattle.
Leaning towards Atlanta these days.
I mean, if you’re operating purely by population, next in line is Houston.
If you’re operating on power and influence, Washington D.C. is #1.
Yea but Houston is on lease from Hell so it doesn’t count.
San Francisco easily takes it imo.
Distant 17th by population but more than makes up for it through business, technological, and cultural influence.
California already has one. What about Seattle?
Seattle definitely isn’t the #4 most major city or CSA. It’s a great city and has major businesses, but Seattle probably sits behind Dallas–Fort Worth. All jokes about fairness aside: California gets to have this one.
I’m from Seattle and I’m not even mad. I wish it was further down the list, my town was more fun when it was broke and unimportant. A boomtown that only gets fun on the downswing, that’s my Seattle.
California has an economy larger than 98% of all countries.
Something like 1 out of 5 people in the US live in California. If California seceded from the US, it would rightfully join the G7 to make it the G8 again. California can have two cities. (Obviously born and raised in California even if I’m living basically as far as one can still in the US)
Honestly agree about the bay but what makes the bay good is the same thing that disqualifies it from the list. You cant pick one bay area city to represent all of the bay, even SF. Youre leaving out San Jose, Oakland, Richmond, the tri Valley, Walnut Creek, all that. You cant take any one of them to wholly represent the others.
LA is California enough for most people. Its like us, but worse. Any true Californian knows youre not really talking about actual Los Angeles anyways. Its a whole cluster of cities from San Diego to Anaheim and out to the actual city proper. I think we got it covered.
Big three should be LA, NYC, and DC. SF can be a floater like Philly or Atlanta or Houston. Chicago belongs in the past and we should leave it there with their goofy accents.
The bay area is almost one big city. As such, it would be an easy 4. But separately, not a lock.
I would go with NYC, LA, San Francisco, and Miami. Those are the four cities that, internationally, everyone knows and wants to go see.
Chicago isn’t an international city like the other 4 here. It’s just… very large. And in that sense it’s like Houston, Detroit or Atlanta. Large, important cities in the US but not particularly relevant on the world stage.
(And yes I know I’m gonna get angry Chicagoans responding, I’m kinda shitposting a bit here)
Non-american with unfortunate closeness/experience with the US here, and I would agree with this. I might consider replacing SF with Seattle to have one in each corner and everyone also knows Seattle (Nirvana…). We all know SF for sure but I think mostly think of it as a smaller (but richer) place than these other ones.
I’m not a Chicagoan, Chicago is definitely a global market, especially in the financial industry.
I’m not sure… who would be the rotations?
Boston ?
San Francisco
Phoenix
Santa Fe
Houston Austin
Idk
+/-
Miami/Tampa/Orlando
Seattle
Atlanta
DC
Portland
Minneapolis/St. Paul
New Orleans
Kansas City
Kansas City over St Louis?
I’d also add Toronto as an honorary that gets thrown in the mix sometimes just for fun.
Dallas - Fort Worth Metro is the biggest market in Texas. Numerous random DFW suburbs are 250k+ people.
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No. We’re a country. Not a city.
I like to think that Washington DC is the fourth, seeing as it’s the national capital, the political & historical center of America, and the fact that things that happen in DC have not just national, but international effects.
Also a fair bit of personal bias tbh, seeing as I live in the metro area.
I live in your country but I agree. From outside, DC is more major than Chicago.
DC has the only decent transit system besides NYC, which pushes it over a lot of bigger cities. Realistically it’s NYC, DC, SF and LA are the tier one cities. Chicago, Boston, Miami, Seattle and Denver start the tier two list. Charlotte, Minneapolis and maybe SLC also get tier two. I am specifically excluding Texas because fuck Texas, there’s nothing redeemable there.
Chicago is clearly top tier, you on angel dust?
NY, Chicago, and LA for sure. And certainly cities like Seattle, Dallas, Denver, St. Louis, New Orleans, Atlanta, Miami, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Boston would all duke it out for the notoriety of the 4th spot. But, are we going to pretend that DC doesn’t edge the rest out for importance, both historically and currently, for landmarks, for cultural relevance?
I’m not American but is San Francisco not a really important city?
Yeah, it is. There are arguably many more too. Minneapolis, Pheonix, Las Vegas, San Diego, Houston, etc. I just tried to pick a smattering of places off the top of my head from a wide spread of the country.
Idk, from an outsider perspective to me the big 3 are NY, LA and SF. Chicago barely registers, nevermind Minneapolis
Oh no Chicago is massive. Has Willis/Sears tower which was once the tallest in the world. Is a major financial hub for thr stock exchange. Has a massive arts and good culture. Has O’Hara International Airport with flights all over the world. Many films and TV shows at there or in its suburbs.
It doesn’t have as many familiar landmarks as San Fran, maybe. And San Fran is has gotten more important with the rise of Silicon Valley which shares the bay area. But Chicago is a big deal in the US, for sure.
Minneapolis really only matters within the midwest.
It was a big deal back when railroad connections meant something. Now, its a corrupt rat warren of institutionalized racism, corporate tax havens, and the goofiest accent north of oaklahoma. You guys dont even make good pizza.
Railroads still mean plenty. How do you think most goods get around?
Boats. Have you seen boats? Big metal things that float?
I’m with you on the rest, but Phoenix? I think they have the largest state college, but that’s all I can think of for importance
It’s the most populated state capital (5 million) and has a big tech and aerospace presence and semiconductor production. That’s all I know about it really besides being hot and dry as hell.
Didn’t it have the highest murder rate in the 90s? That place is too hot to support life.
DC has a clear lead in monuments
Philadelphia is arguably more historically significant than DC
Historically, but not currently
There is no 4th because no one else has 2 baseball teams.
DC has the Orioles and the Nats.
Baltimore has the orioles. The fuck kind of crack you smoking?
Yeah it’s a joke. The DC suburbs are a primary TV market for the Orioles. Like, you get O’s blackouts on MLB.tv all the way down to Richmond.
OK for serious, watch a Yankees game at Camden and tell me who the home team is.
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think Chicago holds that spot idk
Chicago was historically considered the Second City, after NYC. It’s a major shipping and economic hub and has something like the 6th highest GDP of any urban region in the world, over $919 billion in 2024. It has an incredibly diverse culture and is a world class city by every definition of the word.
Its a corporate tax haven with substandard pizza and a goofy accent.
Ooo ooo, also outclasses LA and NYC in murder!
Americans don’t get this because they have no idea how the U.N. works.
Thats a ridiculous assertation. They wont get this because they cant read.
The fuck are these random squiggly lines I keep seeing everywhere. I just learned I can hold my finger down on them, click the squares and drop them in chatgpt and do the squares again and people make more squigglies
Chicago ain’t shit. Its L.A. , NYC, and DC. In that order. Chicago belongs with the floaters like Atlanta, Houston, Miami, Portland, and Las Vegas.
Hard disagree and I ain’t even been to Chicago.
I cant help that you have terrible taste in pizza and goofy accents. Chicago is modern day irrelevant. It died right along side Detroit. You can only abuse them system for so long before all you have left is blood sucking lawyers and corrupt cops. LA is getting there, but our port is way better. Same for NY
just because you hate chicago doesnt make it irrelevant lol
I don’t hate Chicago. I just dont pretend anything remotely interesting has happened there since the Manhattan project. Its a boring backwaterthat blew out every dollar it ever made on anything but maintenance. Im honestly shocked every year it manages not to sink into the swamp it was built over. You people are lucky the place isnt named shittycaca
Houston or Boston i guess.
