csh.
I’m pretty sure even FreeBSD has moved on now from csh to zsh
I was gonna say tcsh, but that’s only for root. Apparently they’ve moved on to Almquist shell (sh). TIL.
Huh, I really thought it was zsh
Maybe that decision got overturned and replaced with sh prior to release
macOS switched to Zsh, replacing Bash. They also now ship pico instead of nano, for some reason.
I probably mixed them up, once upon a time they were the same OS to be fair hahaha
bottom right corner still
and dont forget to take your amlodipine
I had nu on my Windows PC and I thought I could get away with it because I hate PowerShell so much, but then IT came and kicked it into quarantine. Now on zsh-ing on wsl.
Why didn’t I install nu there? Can’t remember.
Nerds
Sometimes I think I’m the only linux user who doesn’t care about their terminal emulator. I use whatever came installed. I assume it’s bash? I don’t know, but anything i want to do is supported by all of them.
Akchually, those are shells, not terminal emulators.
Which I guess confirms that you really don’t care. Whatever works for you, works for you :)
What’s the difference.
How does the virtual terminal factor in.
Why are some shells not login shells
What is a terminal these days and why does it mess up keypresses
A terminal emulator (such as xterm, tmux, or emacs) is responsible for displaying a pseudoterminal in a different context (such as an x server, another terminal, or an emacs buffer respectively). Terminals are divided into three types: virtual terminals (on boot or as presented by [C-]A-F<N>), ‘true’ terminals (exposed on serial ports), and pseudoterminals (controlled by other programs). Essentially, you have a virtual terminal running X running Xterm which controls a pseudoterminal with tmux attached controlling another pseudoterminal.
Login shells are a special flag set when launching shells, sometimes. They typically read different settings (e.g. Bash reads ~/.bash_profile instead of ~/.bashrc). Most shells will launch as a login shell if their command name (argv[0]) begins with a hyphen; Bash also allows explicit
bash -lto run a login shell.The terminal emulator is the window displaying the text. That used to be a physical screen called a terminal. The program that decides what text to show is the shell.
Yesh, I’m a not spending time configuring (and fixing) the shell.
If I want something hairy I’ll use Python (or even C/C++).
You might have more luck with a hamster, pythons are not hairy
alias Da-boom-da-da-mmm-dum-na-ee-ma=sudo rm -rf /Works in ksh93 and mksh. Probably oksh and posh, too.
I remember making that joke on Lemmy and someone calling me immature lol.
I’m immature then with you!
A.D.I.D.A.S with a Freak on a Leash
The creator of kornshell thought it was funny http://kornshell.com/fun/
That’s what they looked like???
do tcsh
(that’s the actual current maintainer of tcsh and the linux file command lol)
Sic. I’ve never even tried anything other than bash, but this looks cool!
Similarly ksh
I was looking for a mention of csh! Senior sysadmin at $DAYJOB uses it still.
Pretty much the whole semiconductor engineering industry is using it. We’ll actually tcsh but csh
I use fish because it was the default in cachyos and decided to give it a fair shake. I like the built in syntax highlighting and fancy autocomplete but I miss bash scripting and built in commands that replace standard commands can be weird sometimes. I have not tried scripting fish, to lazy to learn yet another scripting language, especially if bash is the (almost) de-facto standard.
You can always just continue using bash scripting, with a bash shebang in your scripts, if you miss it
That’s what I do. Fish is great as interactive shell, scripts don’t benefit that much from it and I can use what’s familiar.
I’ve been using it for awhile now for the same reason, and think I’m going to switch back to sh as it has too many suggestions which I read and it interrupts my thoughts and slows me down.
I like having fish as an option, but don’t think I’d ever use it as my default.
If I have a long command that uses long filenames, or I don’t remember the syntax of something, I can just type “fish” and it’ll open up a fish shell.
i am using ZSH cause Fish is not POSIX compliant,which made it annoying to run scripts without rewriting them.
#!/bin/sh
Hope this helps
how about if its not in a sh file,its common for scripts to use sh or bash instead. but am just gonna stick to ZSH anyways
The file extension doesn’t matter much on Linux. If you’ve got a shebang at the top, the shell you’re running from will invoke the correct shell according to the shebang.
In some situations, you may want to use something like
bash <your-script>, but that would only be when you’ve got a script that doesn’t have a shebang, but not having one is bad practice and you really should be using them. Fish isn’t the only non-POSIX shell you’re going to encounter on a Linux system. Python, Perl, and probably some others will be there, and using a shebang ensures no shenanigans. So whether or not you use Fish, you should always use shebangs.Linux doesn’t generally use extensions to decide what shell to use, so it doesn’t matter if it’s an sh file or not.
If it uses bash of course you can substitute #!/bin/bash
And of course you can use whatever shell you want, just saying that POSIX-compliance is not really relevant since the script can specify what shell it needs.
When is this a problem? What scripts don’t use a shebang and/or why does using
shcall fish instead of bash or dash?I have a mild dislike of fish because a few substitutions are different enough that my muscle memory isn’t there. (But I also haven’t put in serious effort to learn them.)
I think they don’t use shebang
Have you run into a specific problem or is this just a hypothetical you’re worried about. I see this a lot but haven’t ever actually run into it being a concern. If you run a script with
from a Fish shell, it won’t use Fish, it will use whatever you haveshpointing to. (Which shouldn’t be Fish, it’s usually bash or dash.)I ran into issues on fish,i don’t remember what they are but I think it’s no shebang
Funny story, in my first years of Linux, I always thought ‘sh’ was the only way to run downloaded programs in the terminal. I must have seen it on some forum and learned it that way. Much later I learned that I could just type this ‘./program’ and run them.
It’s magic
Much later I learned that I could just type this ./program and run them.
TBF that does often require that you
chmod +xthem. Sometimes, that’s not worth the effort …
#computerjoke lol
bash without the bash-completion package
I don’t use bash, bash uses me
I think I’m using fish and it works great, I love alt+s thing and auto complete thingy.
Huh. Alt+s. I forgot about that. I think maybe something in my tmux config makes it not work. Not to worry, I’ve made use of fish’s abbreviations, and have other nice things, like I type tssr and space, and it types out "time sudo strat -r " for me.
Well over a decade using fish, and still finding new treats. It’s so cushy out of the box, without even trying to learn it, it’s easy to miss that there’s so much more. I only started using abbr in the past year or so.
I learned that shortcut when someone was talking about shells. I like that I learn new stuff about Linux too.
TIL the alt+s thing
If you’re not using fish:
sudo !!Or if you are on ZSH: press escape twice. Does require OhMyZSH with sudo plugin.
Yes.
But: Bash: alias please=‘sudo $(history -p !!)’ Zsh: alias please=‘sudo $(fc -ln -1)’
I can’t begin to say how superior my fish rice is to any alternative. So I won’t. And I’ll leave yall to flame me for implying it.
All we ask of you is that you don’t reheat it in the employee break room microwave.
As a ham-handed individual , I absolutely LOVE fish shell. Started using it like 3 years ago and never looked back.
How do you deal with when the guide has commands that only work in bash
Run ‘bash’ and then follow the guide, assuming it’s too complex to tweak for fish.
you can run bash scripts in fish. The syntax is
bash ./script.shEdit: I’m being unhelpful/funny. I just read through the fish manual, and it’s so nice and agree that if it was just a bit more bash friendly it would have great uptake
