She won the primary because the DNC did everything they could to undermine Bernie. Dabbie Wasserman Schultz had already anointed Hillary the chosen one and didn’t want anyone screwing with her plan, democracy be damned.
Are you just here to troll? Bernie* had the largest grass roots movement in a generations. Over 100,000 unique people phone banked for him volunteering. Are you European? You sound like you know nothing about how the political process works in the US beyond TV. If you’re from the US you definitely have never actually involved yourself in the political process beyond just voting. So many ignorant comments you keep leaving here.
He overwhelmingly lost in the primary because not enough progressives voted for him in the primary like I did. What part about that don’t you understand?
Again, you’re looking at American elections and pointing to the outcome as your only analysis. I know how voting works mate. But for some reason you are just interjecting useless comments when someone decides to analyze the factors that lead to that outcome?
You have no thoughts beyond “not enough people voted for him”? Is your analysis really that one dimensional? What are you even trying to say? It’s like looking at a basketball game and saying “the team lost because they had less points”. Wow! Very insightful! What other amazing things do you have to tell us?
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? He lost because most democratic primary voters did not vote for him in the primary. I know because I voted for him in the primary.
Because historically progressives don’t vote and didn’t vote in the primary, so the democratic primary voters that do vote in primaries picked the democratic party nominee.
Do you have any other analysis to offer that is not just restating the vote total? “Historically progressives don’t vote” tells us nothing about why they would not vote. And progressive is a very vague and ill defined word.
Do you think that maybe media coverage or campaign funds might have had influence on the final vote total? Do you think media coverage including pre counted super delegate votes in every state for Hillary hurt turnout for Bernie? Super delegates that were shifted to Bernie once he still won those states.
I’m literally just asking you for anything beyond “telling me the final score of the basketball game”. Were players injured? Was the defense being outplayed? Was the offense not aggressive enough? I am literally asking for your opinion mate. And you keep telling me “not enough people voted for him” in different ways.
Do you have any thoughts beyond that in your head? You keep saying “progressives didn’t vote”. Why? Saying “historically they don’t vote” tells us nothing either. Why would they historically not vote? Can you maybe think about that?
It was my first primary paying attention as an adult. I turned 18 when Obama had already won in late 2008. The primary process of the Democratic party was shocking to me. The super delegates were just insane to me. I phone banked for Bernie. The entire process is like millions of people pretending that the primary process is not a rigged system. News networks showing massive vote leads for states that hadn’t cast a single vote because of “super delegates”. Over and over just pretending that a candidate had already been chosen. When, well, they had been. We just all were pretending it didn’t.
Then you learn of history of the party. Like what was done to drop Wallace from FDR. You realize that this just how it’s always worked. There is a massive amount of tools used by the political party to pick their preferred candidate in a smoke filled room. They just don’t do that directly. They create all these anti democratic rules and all collectively pretend they are “protecting the party”.
They are protecting the party from winning popular support and being able to win against Trump. That’s all that’s happening. It’s on purpose. They are captured by the same capital interest as the Republicans.
She won the primary because the DNC did everything they could to undermine Bernie. Dabbie Wasserman Schultz had already anointed Hillary the chosen one and didn’t want anyone screwing with her plan, democracy be damned.
Dude nobody voted for Bernie in the primary. He never came close. If his supporters showed up that would be one thing but y’all didn’t.
Are you just here to troll? Bernie* had the largest grass roots movement in a generations. Over 100,000 unique people phone banked for him volunteering. Are you European? You sound like you know nothing about how the political process works in the US beyond TV. If you’re from the US you definitely have never actually involved yourself in the political process beyond just voting. So many ignorant comments you keep leaving here.
He overwhelmingly lost in the primary because not enough progressives voted for him in the primary like I did. What part about that don’t you understand?
Again, you’re looking at American elections and pointing to the outcome as your only analysis. I know how voting works mate. But for some reason you are just interjecting useless comments when someone decides to analyze the factors that lead to that outcome?
You have no thoughts beyond “not enough people voted for him”? Is your analysis really that one dimensional? What are you even trying to say? It’s like looking at a basketball game and saying “the team lost because they had less points”. Wow! Very insightful! What other amazing things do you have to tell us?
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? He lost because most democratic primary voters did not vote for him in the primary. I know because I voted for him in the primary.
I’m not disagreeing with the vote count mate. Do you maybe have any thoughts on WHY he got less votes? Is that ok to ask?
Because historically progressives don’t vote and didn’t vote in the primary, so the democratic primary voters that do vote in primaries picked the democratic party nominee.
Do you have any other analysis to offer that is not just restating the vote total? “Historically progressives don’t vote” tells us nothing about why they would not vote. And progressive is a very vague and ill defined word.
Do you think that maybe media coverage or campaign funds might have had influence on the final vote total? Do you think media coverage including pre counted super delegate votes in every state for Hillary hurt turnout for Bernie? Super delegates that were shifted to Bernie once he still won those states.
I’m literally just asking you for anything beyond “telling me the final score of the basketball game”. Were players injured? Was the defense being outplayed? Was the offense not aggressive enough? I am literally asking for your opinion mate. And you keep telling me “not enough people voted for him” in different ways.
Do you have any thoughts beyond that in your head? You keep saying “progressives didn’t vote”. Why? Saying “historically they don’t vote” tells us nothing either. Why would they historically not vote? Can you maybe think about that?
It was my first primary paying attention as an adult. I turned 18 when Obama had already won in late 2008. The primary process of the Democratic party was shocking to me. The super delegates were just insane to me. I phone banked for Bernie. The entire process is like millions of people pretending that the primary process is not a rigged system. News networks showing massive vote leads for states that hadn’t cast a single vote because of “super delegates”. Over and over just pretending that a candidate had already been chosen. When, well, they had been. We just all were pretending it didn’t.
Then you learn of history of the party. Like what was done to drop Wallace from FDR. You realize that this just how it’s always worked. There is a massive amount of tools used by the political party to pick their preferred candidate in a smoke filled room. They just don’t do that directly. They create all these anti democratic rules and all collectively pretend they are “protecting the party”.
They are protecting the party from winning popular support and being able to win against Trump. That’s all that’s happening. It’s on purpose. They are captured by the same capital interest as the Republicans.