I think the problem is about meeting an issue from multiple angles. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
You are right, voting within a system is not a meaningful way to change the system. The relationship between public desire and legislature is almost non-existent, financial interests however are often 1:1. The powerful get access to political and ‘advise’ them on issues they know little about.
But most people aren’t platforming politicians that are informed. They’re not writing to their prepresentatives. They’re not attending meetings. They’re not driving other change.
So yes, while it would be ideal for us to collectively run against the conveyor belt into fascism, to break it down systematically… if most citizens will only choose which direction to jog on the belt, then you should still encourage them to jog against it, rather than protest by sitting down.
I don’t think anybody is in a moral position to say ‘voting for the lesser of two evils is bad/pointless’ unless they’re engaged in literally any activism at all to the alternative, and supporting others in the same. Otherwise their moral idealism is self-righteous harmful ‘slacktivism’, nothing more.
Most people won’t do anything more than vote (or abstain). Most people already barely read policy at all. For such people, recommending they sit down on the belt and be carried righteously into fascism from a position of moral superiority is still moving forward on the belt.
Its amazing to me that there are still people who believe their are "two sides " and that voting works.
Just gotta vote harder guys and next time we won’t get an Israeli puppet!
Careful, you’ll trigger the Lemmy libs
Maybe they can vote for me to stop.
It will work if they just down vote my comment hard enough.
Tankie spotted
Go back to lemmy.Marxist Leninism
It must be so easy and reassuring to live in a world where voting works and only the radical “tankies” think it doesnt.
I think the problem is about meeting an issue from multiple angles. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
You are right, voting within a system is not a meaningful way to change the system. The relationship between public desire and legislature is almost non-existent, financial interests however are often 1:1. The powerful get access to political and ‘advise’ them on issues they know little about.
But most people aren’t platforming politicians that are informed. They’re not writing to their prepresentatives. They’re not attending meetings. They’re not driving other change.
So yes, while it would be ideal for us to collectively run against the conveyor belt into fascism, to break it down systematically… if most citizens will only choose which direction to jog on the belt, then you should still encourage them to jog against it, rather than protest by sitting down.
I don’t think anybody is in a moral position to say ‘voting for the lesser of two evils is bad/pointless’ unless they’re engaged in literally any activism at all to the alternative, and supporting others in the same. Otherwise their moral idealism is self-righteous harmful ‘slacktivism’, nothing more.
Most people won’t do anything more than vote (or abstain). Most people already barely read policy at all. For such people, recommending they sit down on the belt and be carried righteously into fascism from a position of moral superiority is still moving forward on the belt.