Bye
You crazies won and proved me wrong. The fediverse isn’t worth saving after all.
Over the course of the last several days, I have received a constant stream of harassing messages, death threats, and threats of doxxing over DM, Matrix, Github, and Codeberg. All of it instigated and eggged on by another instance’s top admin. This is unacceptable for all of the reasons in the world, and while I won’t give you the personal satisfaction of having won, you’ve definitely proven me wrong about the fediverse being something that even can be saved from itself.
Even people around here I’d interacted with positively for years and had grown to respect because they seemed level headed and above the immature and sociopathic bullshit that dominates this platform showed their true selves. That completely shattered any and all illusions I had that this place has a hidden core of users that I should try to make more visible amongst all the rage, rage baiting, propaganda, harassment, rumor mongering, trolls, conspiracies, purity testing, and violent rhetoric.
Like many of the rational people before me who called this place home, I’m done with this place.
I tried to carve out a space where those people and other rougher edges were not drowning out niche communities and hobbies and where people who choose to use the platform to harass others were also out of sight, out of mind. Apparently only three people who aren’t me actually want a place that’s not just a circle-jerk of rage and hate. Thus sayeth the mob.
Then you have entire instances whose admins call for the death of others, harass other users, and lead harassment, brigading, and DARVO campaigns against those who dare call out their bullshit or decide to disassociate themselves and their work from them.
Lemmy.World was so close to doing the right thing after instance-that-will-not-be named’s admins were calling for the death of LW’s admins while spreading rumours and labeling others in such a way that painted them as targets for murder. All of that, mind you, with absoultey no evidence other than specuation and their own cooked-up conspiracies about modlog actions or taking and twisting things wildly out of context to fit their made-up narratives so they had someone to say they ‘caught’ and should be killed.
.world was on the precipice of doing the right thing and disaccociating themselves from that psychotic shit show, but silently dropped the issue and carried on as usual after wringing their hands for maybe two weeks.
“We have to worry about the optics or the politics of it.” they probably said.
Bullshit.
I’m one person and have held my fucking ground, mostly with dignity and grace, in the heat of my own shitstorm of trying to disaccociate from the extremist elements of the fediverse. If I can stand up for what’s right and deal with the blowback, so can you.
Fuck lemmy world’s admin team for condoning that behavior and letting the human skidmark db0 DARVO his way out of the situation while brigading with his army of malcontents whom he wields like a cult leader. He knows exactly what he is doing, and you all continue to allow him to get away with it.
Nah, fuck this whole place. I’ve let too many things fall by the wayside IRL because of dealing with all this fediverse bullshit and trying to give it the slightest bit of polish both visually and atmospherically. Mythbusters may have proven that you can, in fact, polish a turd, but at the end of the day, it’s still a shiny ball of shit.
For the few people left who didn’t turn out to be psychotic, I’ll think of you from time to time when recalling something you’ve posted or commented that genuinely made me laugh, made me think, or otherwise put a smile on my face or in my heart.
Everyone else, though, enjoy your toxic, xenophobic, knee-jerk-to-violence, purity-testing, and harassing-anyone-who-doesn’t-fall-in-line cess pit. One day you, too, will do or say something that doesn’t toe the line and you’ll be right where I am.
P.S. Rimu, you owe me a beer. No one is talking about the Piefed vote quotas anymore, so you’re welcome.
EDIT: forgot to add:
EDIT2:
Removed the link to the original message because the douche included a Javascript on the page to DDOS Dbzero0
that fucking edit is buckwild. Has someone let db0 know to block the domain?
We all know it was underhanded to deploy a secret list
Please don’t be weird about it
Other instances do this, he’s not the only one. There is a github program that you can use. Also, cloudflare (cloudfare?) probably does a bit of that too.
Yah we’re getting it from every angle. Oooh where do you get secure DNS?
unbound raspberrypi next to the router
our dns doesn’t exist, fam
Sorry I need to salivate and expectorate fairly often but yes I an interested
No, one…
pings like Gaston!
-no one digs like Gaston!
No one nmaps or portmaps an address like Gaston!
“I’m especially good at script disabling!”
Instances choosing to implement their own blocks for their instance is different than a front end developer sneaking a block list in an obscure way that impacts multiple instances.
No it’s not. If I have an instance that blocks any mention of lgbtq+, or trump, or biden, or whatever, that wouldn’t be cool at all. It would be fine if they told you up front, but not if it’s a secret.
Edit: Meaning, that’s literally what shadowbanning is or curating the feeds.
You can’t see the difference between one instance making a decision for themselves and a dev making a secret decision that affects multiple instances?
So you can’t see that shadow banning and curating other’s content is bad?
Yeah, what does context matter?
You should feel bad for all the curation you have done as a moderator by removing comments that broke rules since you think it is bad.
What? If you say that we’re going to block anyone saying slurs and then show that that’s true, cool, do that. If you block people from saying that trump was best friends with epstien and was found guilty in a civil trial of raping Jean Carol, very not fucking cool. So yes, context matters. This is open source, be open about it.
Yeah, what does context matter?
You should feel bad for all the curation you have done as a moderator by removing comments that broke rules since you think it is bad.
Gotosocial and Jabber(XMPP) have blocklists too. Optional ones.
Optional is great. which means people are told that it’s there. The downvote brigade is here for a reason though. Red.dit flashbacks.
The brigade from who? Who’s bregading you?
How ya doing?
Fine I guess, work is finally slowing down allowing me to check my phone.
Is this a hard comparison to ongoing controversy? I’m on a mobile but can come back on a desktop. Although yeah cloudflare, hmmm, never heard of it, but my neighbor is yelling at their dog
Yeah that’s my take on it. It was a very weird thing to do on many levels. Especially doing it with the secret API call. The guy didn’t understand the fediverse and wanted to mold it arbitrarily. Even if he had gone about it non-secretly it was very doomed to failure for a lot of reasons, but doing it secretly was making sure it would fail even harder. The whole idea of this platform is that you can block any number of instances/people/communities but trying to secretly do that on other people’s behalf was never going to end well.
Having said all that, there is quite a bit of toxicity here that goes unchecked. But his idiotic way of dealing with it was never the right move.
dont let the door hit you on the way out 🤡
They’re not wrong.
But you don’t force your will on others and try to control them and the things they share.
The Fediverse is pretty shit a lot of the time because it does attract a lot of life’s leftovers, but we have our own block methods. It’s unlikely to grow because of all the egoism and extremism of these losers, but that’s for its natural path and it’s a fun experiment in the meantime.
Close the door on your way out.
does that mean we ALL made his ban list?
This sounds suspiciously like a power-tripping ex-Reddit mod, who found themselves on the wrong side of a Reddit bot ban, and gravitated to Lemmy, bringing with them the sense of entitlement, haughtiness, and ridiculous God Complex the worse Reddit mods carried. And, upon realising that shit don’t fly here, chucked a tanty, and piddled with impotent anger and thoughts of vengeance, like a rabid locust.
Maybe they’ll be happier at Digg?
The ramblings of an unhinged lunatic. Bye, will not be missed
I joined Lemmy cause Reddit kept banning me for saying Nazi should be met with a punch.
Not gonna lie. A lot of you are great. Some of you are up your own assholes and think it smells like flowers, some of you are way to sensitive, some of you are nutjobs.
But yall are okay for most part. I just wish I knew what the fuck yall were taking about most of the time. All this shit is confusing to me.
While he did absolutely dumb shit and is wrong about the Fediverse (what many Reddit refugees fail to understand is that the Fediverse doesn’t just consist of Lemmy, mbin/kbin and piefed, but a lot more such as mastodon, misskey, pixedfed, peertube and so on), a lot of people from dbzer0 and .ml did act like asses and did more than just criticize Admiral Patrick. However he did totally overreact to criticism and both sides kept escalating.
So this is the dipshit? Sounds like I expected.
He was fearing for his life truly the most oppressed lemming.
From now on, I’m going to blame everything bad that happens to Lemmy on the departure of AdmiralPatrick.
Lmao what a moron.
Actually, that bullshit with .world admin was the reason I left .world.
From what I can tell, I’m against anything this fascist twat is for.
