• alapakala@quokk.au
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    5 days ago

    So, you would personally allow the screenshots set the narrative that kittenzrulz123 apologize to genocide, than set an anti genocide stance?

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Kittenzrulz123 never “apologized” for genocide, as this implies accepting that the alleged genocide is even real to begin with, and then stating that it’s good. Kittenzrulz123 took the correct stance that there’s no actual evidence for genocide in Xinjiang.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          I’m referring to this:

          Which deals pretty explicitly with the allegations of genocide in Xinjiang. What genocide are you referring to?

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            5 days ago

            That read to me like pugjesus trying to pull a whataboutism, which like kittenzrulez123 I would ignore. I meant the ones below: Stalin genocide
            Pinochet genocide
            Biden genocide

            These were the exact reasons they were demodded for.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              kittenzrulz123 isn’t denying genocide, here. Claiming that Stalin wasn’t as bad as Hitler is mainstream liberal historian consensus, and most modern historiography shows he was better than Churchill. There’s no denial of genocide by Hitler, nor a defense of Pinochet. Instead, there’s support for Salvadore Allende, who unfortunately was coup’d precisely because his path to socialism was not revolutionary, and a denial that Stalin was as bad as Hitler, which is just historical fact.

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                But genocide apologetics nonetheless.
                Kittenzrulz123 was asked to cease them, and with outright refusal, they were demoderated.

                • blåhaj hasn’t defederated
                • didn’t ban Kittenzrulz123’s db0 account
                • even let Kittenzrulz123 keep posting in 196 if so desired.

                Seeing as Kittenzrulz123 has choson to excommunicate, I will read this as desiring to maintain genocide apologetics in the future.

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                  If I tell you to stop murdering children, and you tell me to fuck off, is that an admission on your part of murdering children? The charges are baseless, and kittenzrulz123 was responding to them as such.

                  There were no genocide apologetics. You have not explained any. There was no genocide committed by the Soviet Union, the allegations of genocide in Xinjiang that were explicitly mentioned by kittenzrulz123 are baseless as mentioned, and Salvador Allende never committed genocide. The usage of Captain America’s famous line as a respond in kind to the monstrously bad-faith allegations levied against them is not apologetics for genocide either.

                  This is just clear libel on your part.

                • yunqihao [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                  5 days ago

                  But genocide apologetics nonetheless.

                  You haven’t managed to name a single genocide they did anything even approaching apologetics towards not to mind denial. Genuinely what the fuck are you talking about in this thread?

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              I don’t see any apologies for any genocides in those screenshots. If you’re talking about Stalin/USSR specifically, there was no genocide, so there’s no apology for one.

              • alapakala@quokk.au
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                5 days ago

                You don’t see Salvador Allende’s genocide and Captain America’s being mentioned in these screenshots?

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                  What are you even talking about? Did Allende or Captain America commit genocide? You’re just talking nonsense.

                • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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                  You don’t see Salvador Allende’s genocide

                  First, you were asserting that they were an apologist for Pinochet. Now, you are claiming that Salvador Allende committed a genocide.

                  Can you at least name a year when that supposed genocide happened, and what groups were the target of that genocide?

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                    Damn, the comment was purged from the modlog. Now I’ll never know how the hell alapakala tried to spin this shit.

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          ???

          The accusation of genocide denial had no specific context given so you just have to guess. These are lazy anticommunist liberals they gobble up invented genocides when it suits the narrative of their masters.

          Unless you can specifically ground exactly what genocides were denied? Show the posts and comments.