From what I’ve learned by working in top heavy product teams vs slimmer developer teams. The basis for this “in-office leads to productivity” mentality is:
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People who’s job uses meetings as their main tool, want these meetings to be in person, and push for a lot of otherwise unnecessary meetings. These meetings, are, of course, more effectively conducted in person.
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People who’s job is ultimately to do the work, want to avoid unnecessary meeting. The work that needs doing, can be done more effectively, with fewer distractions, higher quality of life, less environmental impact from the commute, etc, from home.
The pandemic showed that productivity increased when people worked from home. What you can deduce from that, would be unpleasant for all those in the former category.
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Management lives in a fantasy world of vibes and bullshit. They don’t care about the workers, the product, or the users. They are insulated from consequences.
The mega corporations need to be broken up, and replaced by smaller, worker-owned, organizations.
smaller, worker-owned, organizations.
Mondragon tried that, it seems to mostly work. I think the keyword is smaller, companies don’t know how to grow without hiring idiots who then become in charge.
Thank you. The only example I’ve had prior was British Telecom.
Zoom also makes their folks work on site.
Guess they don’t like their own dog food
Yeah the company my BIL works at wanted the IT staff to drive into the office, to then login remotely to customer servers. Go figure.
Corporate: “Everyone must be in office to encourage in-person discussion and cross-team collaboration.”
Also Corporate: “Is this discussion documented anywhere?”No, you twat. It was discussed in person.
The whole force return to office thing is just a “we own you” moment from leadership. It doesn’t have to make sense for them. And I’ll bet you that the leadership will continue to enjoy remote work benefits. I was recently ordered back to office. The problem is I don’t actually work with or report to any of the folks at that office. So I’m just going to an office to sit on teams calls with my coworkers instead or staying home and doing the same thing.
Aren’t you excited to sit in traffic though?
“Let’s push EVs to help the environment.”
Also: “Let’s make everyone go back into the office.”
Commuting for jobs that can be effectively done remotely is such an egregious waste of resources and time.
Remember how much less pollution there was during COVID when everyone was working from home?
I think it’s worthwhile mentioning that not only did Microsoft buy a superior solution, Skype, but let it languish and ultimately threw it away in favor of Teams.



