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And if I’m a windows normie that’s sick of windows windowing, I’ll be fine using mint… Right? Y’all are good at making this sound very complex.
Mint is perfect for exactly that purpose. There’s a daunting marketplace of alternatives all with different specialties. Mint’s specialty is being as easy and newbie friendly as possible. Out of the box - it just works - etc.
It’s easier just recommending the distro rather than Linux in general.
I know someone who was starting to dislike windows, I sent them the Linux mint site. Had a much more positive interaction compared to when I had just previously said “what about using Linux?”
I actually think this is a similar way to push the fediverse. Just recommend a good instance instead of trying to sell them on federated technology. The federated technology will show them content and “how does this actually work” could be a conversation for later.
That sounds like a good approach, actually.
I’ll be fine using mint… Right?
Probably! Best way to find out, is to just try it out :)
Y’all are good at making this sound very complex.
Fwiw, this isn’t really aimed at people who are just dipping their toes in. Enthusiasts in any field can sound insane from the outside in
Mint is super nice for people that don’t like linux stuff. I use it in my workstations and most don’t even know they are on linux.
My setups are complicated (from a new user’s perspective, anyway) because I want to have things work in very specific ways. I used to use Mint, it’s pretty great at what it does and you can still do hacky stuff with it if you so choose.
Mint is meant for beginners and folk who just want an OS, not a hobby.
Another to check out is ZorinOS. Same deal as Mint, but looks wise is closer to modern Windows and is also designed to make it very easy to run windows programs in Linux.
I use zorin on a desktop and Mint on a laptop. Both are fantastic. I also use Ubuntu server (no GUI) for my home webserver, and it’s really good (but I’ll never use uwubuntu for a desktop OS again)
Went the other way, moved from Mint 22.3 to OpenSuSE Tumbleweed. Rolling release with solid testing before updates are pushed, any breakage during testing and they don’t push that day’s update, and if something does slip through and break things, just boot into the pre-update snapshot and wait a day to try again with the next patches.
Up to date packages with low hassle, so as long as I don’t need stable-as-in-never-changes, it’s great.
Also, nice to have KDE 6 finally and to have KDE not be a forgotten afterthought (Cinnamon is nice but I always feel like I’m limited compared to KDE)
Debian <3
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But it says this screenshot post happened 4h ago.
Did the internet lie to me?
It still says 4h ago. I checked a while ago, still the same. What the heck? Is it moving in time? Always four hours away? How is this possible?!
There might be a bug in your time, check the logs
Ask fusion researchers, they’ve been maintaining a 30 year difference for decades.
100%. I’ve got servers running arch for the past 5 years or so and they’re the most stable systems I’ve got. I got so tired of the painful upgrade paths on “stable” distros so decided to switch a server to a rolling release.
After I found arch got security patches into the repos faster than the stable distros could backport, I decided to switch them so over.
I’m even a mad man and have them self update with a script that checks informant (or something, can’t actually remember) for installed packages against news. If no installed packages are found in news, it continues with the scheduled update.
It’s glorious.
I was too lazy for scripting the update to check the news and just get a mail when the update has issues… or should get one.
In reality I check if the email process still works once every blue moon because I didn’t get one from a failed update in years.
If you want to have at least some thrill, use testing repos. I had to fix GitLab two (2) times due to the main package not being linked against testing libraries (it took 10 seconds to ln -s the new to the old version), and had one breakage due to dovecot revamping their whole config system, but publishing no example/useful docs.
I fully endorse gentoo and arch in prod
Especially when customizing the kernel is the default experience with Gentoo, reducing the theoretical attack surface even more if you know what you’re doing.
I don’t think this post was written by ChatGPT. I do think the human who wrote it uses ChatGPT so much they’re adopting its mannerisms.
I just use a phone. I don’t know whst you retards are talking about.
Stable over rolling release?
These are not mutually exclusive.
Can haz stable rolling.
E.g. use Gentoo, and avoid the ~ and ** keywords.
Gentoo’s all about choice. You can choose to configure it so it does not require hand holding, and running it like a tamagochi. Or you can choose to fiddle with it so much it’s very time demanding… not the compiling, so much as the system configuration management. There’s official binhost now anyway. But then, if you’re fiddling around alot, you’ll send emerge to compile rather than just get a binary, to meet all your exacting nuances of configuration.
I have one gentoo that’s been rock solid for … about 17 years, with only one blip of downtime when there was a fire. No hand-holding.
Arch is indeed a different beast. In my experience, it’s only a matter of (relatively short) time before Arch eats its kernel or some other catastrophe that requires rescue or abandon.
Respect to Manjaro for what they try do, offer arch with more stability (and conveniences).
On a whim, just now, I made this
But, then, I hear many things have changed in arch, since I last used arch (just before the switch to systemd)… and maybe things have changed, and it does not do that any more…?
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And then also, can haz arch/artix/etc in a bedrock stratum… then it can carry on in its bloody rolling risky churn, in a safe space, where the more stable strata can pick up the slack when arch tries to faceplant itself again.
Fedora here…I tried arch once…not for me.
ChatGPT-ass take
The ChatGPT accent is real.
Arch user (btw) here. I use xorg and a custom tiling window manager. I had 0 breakage regarding my config. Nvidie fked me 2 times and grub was broken 1 time. Thats it. 10 years 3 chroot. Pacman runs when I feel like it. I used two weeks to configure my setup, and I hardly ever change a thing nowdays.
Tried Hyperland on an “old” thinkpad, each update broke something. So no thanks, I’ll stick to mature, battle tested components, where my config and sanity will remain stable, and leave the tamagotchi for ricers/thinkerers.
ex arch user for 5 yrs
current fedora user since 2024
i’ve been getting a lot of “recommended” youtube videos on gentoo and nixos
send help plezz
The first time debian oldstable broke a package after an incremental update, i reconsidered my long running hard stance against arch
Updated my endeavour install last night from 6.18 to 7.1 without issue: daily -Syu is for the birds
wtf is this bullshit
and more importantly, why is it so condescending?!
nixCraft (at cyberciti <dot> biz) is a site that has been slop publishing tutorials for everything ever possible with common unixy commands. And also shit like “30 Cool Open Source Software I Discovered in 2013”. It often calls Unix “Linux”, other times it uses both “Unix/Linux” for some reason, and sometimes it even says “on BSD, MacOS” for flags that only function on GNU coreutils. It started pre-AI, so it’s like clickhole but for “installed Fedora yesterday” people (although I would imagine most traffic being “I’ve been using this for 24 years and forgot some flag”).
It’s meant to be an attempt at humor/sarcasm/engagement bait I think.
Why would someone do that on the internet? I thought this was a safe place Q.Q
Arch Linux isn’t actually hard to use, just a pain to set up, but still of you want an arch set up but the convenience like anyone else then use a fork of arch. We’re use Cachy mostly cuz we enjoy the plug and play. No hassle no issues. Though think pads are peak.
What has never worked for us was Ubuntu, haven’t tried Debian tho
