• No Thanks@lemmy.4d2.org
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    2 days ago

    The first time debian oldstable broke a package after an incremental update, i reconsidered my long running hard stance against arch

    Updated my endeavour install last night from 6.18 to 7.1 without issue: daily -Syu is for the birds

  • NominatedNemesis@reddthat.com
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    2 days ago

    Arch user (btw) here. I use xorg and a custom tiling window manager. I had 0 breakage regarding my config. Nvidie fked me 2 times and grub was broken 1 time. Thats it. 10 years 3 chroot. Pacman runs when I feel like it. I used two weeks to configure my setup, and I hardly ever change a thing nowdays.

    Tried Hyperland on an “old” thinkpad, each update broke something. So no thanks, I’ll stick to mature, battle tested components, where my config and sanity will remain stable, and leave the tamagotchi for ricers/thinkerers.

  • mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    ex arch user for 5 yrs

    current fedora user since 2024

    i’ve been getting a lot of “recommended” youtube videos on gentoo and nixos

    send help plezz

  • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Stable over rolling release?

    These are not mutually exclusive.

    Can haz stable rolling.

    E.g. use Gentoo, and avoid the ~ and ** keywords.

    Gentoo’s all about choice. You can choose to configure it so it does not require hand holding, and running it like a tamagochi. Or you can choose to fiddle with it so much it’s very time demanding… not the compiling, so much as the system configuration management. There’s official binhost now anyway. But then, if you’re fiddling around alot, you’ll send emerge to compile rather than just get a binary, to meet all your exacting nuances of configuration.

    I have one gentoo that’s been rock solid for … about 17 years, with only one blip of downtime when there was a fire. No hand-holding.

    Arch is indeed a different beast. In my experience, it’s only a matter of (relatively short) time before Arch eats its kernel or some other catastrophe that requires rescue or abandon.

    Respect to Manjaro for what they try do, offer arch with more stability (and conveniences).

    On a whim, just now, I made this

    Arch Faceplant image of archlogo skateboarder faceplanting with sudo pacman -Syu skatebloard in air

    But, then, I hear many things have changed in arch, since I last used arch (just before the switch to systemd)… and maybe things have changed, and it does not do that any more…?

    `

    And then also, can haz arch/artix/etc in a bedrock stratum… then it can carry on in its bloody rolling risky churn, in a safe space, where the more stable strata can pick up the slack when arch tries to faceplant itself again.

  • Laurel Raven@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Went the other way, moved from Mint 22.3 to OpenSuSE Tumbleweed. Rolling release with solid testing before updates are pushed, any breakage during testing and they don’t push that day’s update, and if something does slip through and break things, just boot into the pre-update snapshot and wait a day to try again with the next patches.

    Up to date packages with low hassle, so as long as I don’t need stable-as-in-never-changes, it’s great.

    Also, nice to have KDE 6 finally and to have KDE not be a forgotten afterthought (Cinnamon is nice but I always feel like I’m limited compared to KDE)

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Arch really isn’t that bad when you’re not mucking around with the AUR. Debian is a little overkill for most normal users in respect to stability but it’s good people have the freedom to do whatever the heck they want with their machines.

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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      2 days ago

      I think if I was running a server at home for anything more than just wanting to tinker, I’d probably use Debian. But even then, I think if I had a server at home it’d be just to have a server lol.

  • GaumBeist@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    What about you? When did you choose stability over the rolling release?

    This is such sloppy engagement baiting. If it was just a hot take shitting all over one of the larger linux communities, that would be one thing, but to follow it up with a “let me know in the comments” just makes it all feel disingenuous and like somebody is being sponsored by NordVPN or Incogni to post their ragebait

  • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I did not expect a Linux outlet to post such an ignorant and outdated take. Disappointed 👎

  • Kogasa@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    Arch teaches you to exercise muscles that would otherwise atrophy. Understanding how your system is put together, how to diagnose and fix problems, how to handle upgrades safely. It becomes just as easy as any other OS and you’re better off for it.

  • Anna@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Early on in Linux journey rolling distros are great.

    I started my Linux journey with a rolling distro and I’m thankful for that. It broke every other day I spend hours upon hours on stackoverflow and other forums trying to find solutions and to fix it. That led to understanding linux in general to a greater depth. I’m now on a stable distro because I’ve a job now but I was only able to land that job because I knew Linux well enough. I know even after 10+ years I’m nowhere near the level others are at but it’s about the journey and not the destination. I’ve grown along the way.