• VinegarChunks@lemmus.org
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    4 days ago

    Ukraine has a Nazi problem? Oh man, that is horrible!

    Do Ukrainian Nazis invade rob and murder their neighboring countries? That would be a really bad thing for Nazis to do.

    How many seats in the Ukrainian parliament are currently held by Nazis?

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      4 days ago

      This is a pretty good 2026 article written by a Ukrainian academic: Ukraine’s military has a real Nazi problem | Responsible Statecraft

      Or see the coverage of the recent reburial of Nazi collaborator with state honor by Zelensky. Note how different and prominent the headlines are between Israel newspapers and the western mainstream newspapers.


      The bigger question though is who got into power and how during the regime change:

      Read a bit from this book written by another Ukrainian academic scholar: The Maidan Massacre in Ukraine: The Mass Killing that Changed the World | Springer Nature Link. From the conclusions:

      The analysis of various evidence, such as synchronized videos, audio recordings, testimonies of the absolute majority of wounded Maidan protesters, and some 500 other witnesses, shows beyond any reasonable doubt that the Maidan protesters and the police were massacred by Maidan snipers located in Maidan-controlled buildings in a rationally organized operation with involvement of far-right and oligarchic elements of the Maidan opposition. This mass killing led to the overthrow of the Yanukovych government and ultimately to the Russian annexation of Crimea, the civil war and Russian military interventions in Donbas, and the Ukraine-Russia and West-Russia conflicts which Russia escalated by illegally invading Ukraine in 2022.

      This isn’t just this guy saying it, or propaganda, or a conspiracy theory - a 2023 jury trial verdict in Ukraine comes to the same conclusion after reviewing all the evidence. Buried trial verdict confirms false-flag Maidan massacre in Ukraine – Canadian Dimension

      If you really want to know the truth and do not trust these articles you can download the original trial verdict in Ukrainian and try google translate. Unfortunately I have not found a way to do a full english translation myself because the verdict is a 14mb html file.

      So tell me, if true, is this important at all? To the question of who came into power? Of how this is pretty much ignored or labeled disinfo?

      Do Ukrainian Nazis invade rob and murder their neighboring countries? That would be a really bad thing for Nazis to do.

      108 civilian protesters and 13 police officers were murdered in the “Revolution of Dignity”.

      Does it excuse Russia’s invasion? No. But it makes it much less of a simple and one sided situation. All of this after the CIA/NED chief bragged about wrestling Ukraine away from Russia. See Anatomy of a Coup: How CIA Front Laid Foundations for Ukraine War for more western sources.

      So you can mock and laugh all you want. The facts remain the ugly facts when you use “non Russian aligned” sources.

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        3 days ago

        Does it excuse Russia’s invasion? No.

        Bottom line right here. You are going on quite a bit about stuff that has absolutely no bearing on the most important issues of the day.

        Russian war crimes in Ukraine have killed about 4 orders of magnitude (10,000 times) more people than the incident you mention here. And you feel it’s important and relevant to discuss the reburial of one guy who died a half century ago. Your priorities are severely misplaced. The main tool of propaganda is not the lie, but the emphasis, and your emphasis on small things in trying to distract from 10,000 times bigger things is wildly out of whack.