Arch is what i want to be, openSuse is who i am.
Fairly accurate. SUSE is more like an IT guy forced to wear a suit to work that is not tailored well.
This guy is Kali Linux or Qubes/Whonix/TailsOS:

yes
The higher the socks the downer the foo’
Does being a Linux Mint Debian Edition user make me middle-aged?
No, an old person in diapers

I discovered last night that my car is a Debian fan.
I went from Ubuntu to Bazzite (OpenSUSE was my first choice, but there was a weird error trying to get it running and installed). Since Bazzite is basically Fedora… Should I get myself a hat?
I think this is a better representation of Debian (the beard is important). https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ken_Thompson,_2019.jpg
Ken actually uses Debian, at least he said so in an interview a couple of years ago.
So Linux Mint Debian Edition would just be a middle-aged person?
Linux user for 25+ years here. I’ve tried 'em all. These days I just use Mint.
Yep, been on Linux for 10 or 12 years now, I honestly can’t remember. Distro hopped at first, then I found Mint and never saw a need to change.
Same conclusion for me. Been using Linux for years, Mint is the only distro I’ve used that #JustWorks in my experience.
I use LMDE as my personal laptop, it’s rock stable.
What’s the difference between LMDE and running Cinnamon on Debian?
LMDE tries to give you the Mint experience on a Debian base. It’s Debian for people who like Mint, I guess.
Iirc LMDE uses a btrfs naming scheme that is incompatible with Timeshift for example, and it removes some standard Mint features. The last time I tried LMDE is was basically Debian with cinnamon (and green theme), but what is the Mint experience?
but what is the Mint experience?
Mostly just the way Mint is set up out of the box and having most of the Mint tools available. I remember LMDE lacking some of the tools like the GPU driver installer last time I tried it, but I’m sure those are either being added over time or will be in the future.
Probably why you can sleep like a baby.
Babies are terrible with sleeping and wake up constantly causing problems.
Eh. You just give them a little shake and they go quiet pretty quickly.
I have yet to encounter a use case where I would need anything other than Mint.
After 20 plus years of Linux I also really love using mint on any machine with a screen. My servers are all Debian based but my desktop and laptop are mint it just works
Also, not sure how using arch is equal to the picture, not sure if that’s supposed to be a trans girl, an e girl, or something else. Using arch is more like a mechanic with a car that breaks down every time they change anything.
Same here, except on servers where I use debian.
Because I’m old and tired, and I just want to install and be up and running in as short of a time as possible without dicking around.
I’m in an organization that helps people install Linux on their devices, and we collectively decided to install Linux Mint. I never used it myself, and to me, the distribution doesn’t matter too much.
However, I was negatively surprised that Linux Mint decided to mix closed-source proprietary software together with open-source software: http://packages.linuxmint.com/search.php?release=alfa§ion=import&keyword=
They also advertise them in top positions on their package installers, which also doesn’t show the packages licenses anywhere. To me advertising them and mixing them like they are the same is bad… They also don’t offer ways to filter them out… So… while I still install LM for others, I’m not a fan…
Being too purist about the openness of a distribution is a big reason Linux has taken so long to gain foothold on PCs.
I don’t care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.
I’m not a purist, I want people to be informed users, not just sheep that get fed whatever corporations want them to eat. If they still choose to use closed source software, then that is fine.
I don’t care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.
More often, it’s not applications, per se – it’s things like video codecs and drivers.
And there is no open-source alternative, because the only way to decode that proprietary video format or run that proprietary wifi module is to use their proprietary software to do it. So you either have user-friendly distros that include the availability of those things for the ‘it just works’ experience, or you have open-source purist distros where you can be proud of being purely open source, but some of your video files won’t play, and your wifi doesn’t work.
Yeah… But LM has spotify, Google Earth, Dropbox and Sublime Texteditor mixed in open source software (like d-feet, a dbus inspection tool) in their repos… Those aren’t propritary Codecs, WiFi driver or firmware…
Debian and Ubuntu have different APT repo sections for closed source stuff. That is what I would have expected…
On the other hand, being purist about openness is why GNU exists in the first place.
So there are different Distros with different philosophies, that people with different preferences can find what tgey are looking for.
tgey
Me, running CachyOS, and eschewing the socks:

Hell yeah! Programming socks are overrated.
Yes, they are.
Kneel before the barefoot-programming aristocracy!
Give it time…
Nah. I’m good.
As a Linux Mint Debian Edition user. I guess I’m just Benjamin Button.
Obligatory not an arch user, but I have been thinking of potentially getting thigh highs if I can find purple and white stripped ones. Closest I got is a couple of pairs of soccer/football socks that I recently got, but I kinda wanna change that.
I’m forced to use Ubuntu (an old version too, 22.04) because the app I use for about 70% of my computer time doesn’t support anything else. I’ve tried newer versions of ubuntu and other distros and have gotten it to a mostly working state after a lot of work, but the issues are too much and I also loose all customer support since I’m not using the officially supported distro and version. I’ll never go back to Windows but I feel jailed in more than I did before, and there’s just no other option.
So what does that image look like?
Im trying to imagine what software is so obscure no one has updated it or ported to another distro, but is important and good enough that you use it for 70% of your comluter time.
Even (often, especily) extremely old programming languages and stuff are still maintained by someone
Probably shit like NinjaRMM
They only support Ubuntu for their rdesktop app, Someone pulled it kicking and screaming into nixpkgs, i built a flake around it. It’s stable, but the day they release a breaking change, I’m at the mercy of an unpaid, unnamed package maintainer to make it work again or take a stab at it myself. Or run it in wine, or run it in a windows VM. or build it out an ubuntu docker and x11 forward it back.
Yeah but even then a VM isnt crazy terrible for those. I had a job where i was running my pc through 4 different vms before i could reach the users PC (which was running on a VM)
Also wine
Distrobox?
I dunno, put it in a VM on a much newer distro?
Put the app into a docker container?
As always people forget glorious Nixos
I think we NixOS users get grouped in with Arch. Same socks, different colors.
And the even more glorious, guix
As a NixOS user, what are some things I would like about Guix? The webpage mostly covers features already present in NixOS, so I’m curious how they diverge.
- Superior Error handling and debugging(with Lisp REPL) thanks to Guile Scheme language.
- Guile scheme is easier to write and understand. It has a mature ecosystem of libraries and standard programming constructs (macros, recursion, higher-order functions)
- In Guix System, the package manager, the build system, and the system configuration are all written in the same language.
- No systemd, Guix system uses GNU Shepherd. You define services directly in Guile Scheme. This allows for dynamic service manipulation, hot-swapping, and introspection using the same language as the rest of the system.
- Guix home (the home manager) is built in and very easy to use if you already got the hang of Guile Scheme.
- Guix uses linux-libre, which is fully free kernel. If your hardware is not supported (likely) there is a nonguix channel to get proprietary packages to make it work.
- The standard guix repository contains only free software. Proprietary software can be installed via some other channels, but not recommended.
Thanks for the breakdown. Those are some good arguments in favor of it I hadn’t heard. Nix lang can leave some things to be desired, especially in the error handling/debugging department.
On youtube, there is a channel called System Crafters, who has various videos explaining his system made up of guix system, emacs and EmacsWM. It’s the most unified operating system on GNU/Linux. If it fits your workflow, you can make the transition.
If NixOS uses systemd that’s the difference probably, my understanding is that guix is a non-systemd distro. (I am not who you replied to, just trying to help.)














