Former Fox News host Megyn Kelly ripped into some of the most vocal supporters of Donald Trump’s war in Iran, listing the names of people she said pushed him into the conflict.
“Stop with that ‘it’s President Trump’s decision.’ I’m aware, but someone talked him into it, and those people should be held to account,” Kelly said on Friday’s episode of her show. “As this thing goes south, we need to know exactly who talked him into it, and what representations were made to convince the president that this was a good idea. Who? Who, specifically?”
The podcaster is one of a few conservative personalities, including Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, who have publicly opposed Trump’s war. An NBC News poll from earlier this month revealed that 90% of self-identified MAGA-aligned Republican voters support the war, while a majority of voters overall oppose it.
So it’s the advisors whispering in the Mad King’s ear who are to be blamed. Clearly the Mad King bears none of the responsibility for his actions.
I’m just holding everyone who voted for trump in 24 responsible. By that stage nobody could legitimately claim ignorance, they knew what they were doing.
I agree with you, but that’s 77 million people. How are you gonna hold them responsible? And I ask sincerely, because something’s gotta be done with those assholes. I’d accept them just learning from their mistakes and changing their behavior, but, man, I do not see that happening. I hope it does. I hope to god it does, but I’d be lying if I said I was optimistic about it. And if they won’t listen to reason, like, what can we do?
That’s the big question for greater minds than my own. There was a time not too long ago when it was almost universally agreed that fascist authoritarianism and genocide were horrible, and people who subscribed to those ideals did so secretly because it was shameful. Now there are proud supporters of Nazism, and people being openly racist, bigoted, and hateful. Getting our society back to the point where those people at least hid in shame would be a good start. Of course it doesn’t make it go away, as we’re seeing right now, but there is no way to truly eradicate this type of thinking. As you said, you can’t forcibly educate those who are resistant to it, and anything beyond that gets into “thought police” territory.
I don’t know what sort of societal engineering that would take, or who would be in charge of it. I think we were all kind of relying on the fact that most people are overall inherently decent enough to instinctively oppose that kind of shit, but it turns out we were wrong.
Denaturalize them. They were cool doing it to others so let them experience the same.
Serious answers only, please.
Oh I’m serious as a heart attack. If we get through this those fuckers need to pay dearly.
Yeah how the fuck are you seriously proposing deporting tens of millions of people. How could that ever possibly happen
Don’t be a clown
Where did I say deport?
Follow this same logic and apply it to the 2020 election and the Palestinian genocide and I’m on board with you.
At the end of the day. All Americans are responsible for the crimes of this country regardless of who you voted for. We all allow the war machine to keep bombing brown kids thousands of miles away and have the nerve to call ourselves a “Democracy” and start to care about the crimes of the president only when we can use it to distance ourselves from them. “I didn’t vote for them” becomes “Israel has a right to defend itself” or “Iran actually was gonna nuke us” when the guy you voted for is in office.
But, go ahead, explain to me how much worse Iran is than Gaza. How the war machine doesn’t keep on pumping no matter who you vote for. Is it because gas prices didn’t go up during THAT slaughter of children?
Edit: Lots of downvotes with no responses. Sorry reality made you feel bad.
I do. In fact, I have very little forgiveness for anyone who was stupid or shitty enough to even vote for him in 16. Pretty much anyone who has voted republican since the tea party got loud gets no respect from me. What happened, and is still happening, in Gaza, as well as the international response to it, is disgusting and shameful to our entire species. But one could make the case that standing impotently by while a country you support commits atrocities is still different from jumping in at the start to commit those atricites yourself on behalf of that country.
If they voted for him in 2016 but never again after that, and have actively voted against his opponents since I can forgive it. Sure, first time around it was clear he was a shit candidate that would do harm, but I think most of us thought it would be due to incompetence, not actual malice. If once that became clear people were able to process that new information and change their behaviors appropriately I think we’re much better off welcoming them with open arms.
Stupid enough to vote for him twice and they deserve no quarter.
Yeah, that’s the “very little” that I have.
“He’ll believe anything you tell him, so it’s not his fault.” That famous conservative accountability I’ve heard so much about.
Every single Republican is a fucking traitor
“The buck stops with whomever told me to do it!”
This war has been bipartisan policy for 40 years. Trump is the symptom, not the disease.
Yeah, I clarify when I mention trump, I’m talking about his whole admin, it’s just easier to say trump.
An NBC News poll from earlier this month revealed that 90% of self-identified MAGA-aligned Republican voters support the war
The “no new wars” group are almost fully supportive of this because Dear Leader told them so. So pathetic it’s sad.
