I used to display Google ad links on my site, they accumulated value - slowly, but Google would only cut a check when you reach $100 worth of ads shown. My earnings approached $100 like an asymptote, halfway there in the first 6 months, 3/4 in the first year, 7/8 in the second year, 15/16 in the third… never did quite reach $100, and so my payout for all my effort and showing of their ads remains to this day $0.
I think it would be super easy for them to fudge the numbers on their side.
And when you have “proof” they fudged their numbers, how exactly do you make the monster pay? It’s definitely a rigged game.
More adds and less money for creators… Where is money going? We all know.
On the flip side, I am genuinely curious how much storage and processing time all the AI slop being uploaded is costing them. Some of that stuff is hours long, and like most videos on YouTube, most people aren’t watching it.
Why do so many people abbreviate adverts/advertisements to “adds”… where is the extra d coming from ?
If you watch adds, advertisers put their D where they want.
I’m with you there. When I see “adds”, I want to know where they’re coming from and who’s going to tank them.
Ads, on the other hand, those I’m content with knowing my adblocker is taking care of it.
Keep moving the goalposts so YT can just keep more of the ad money for themselves and the line moving up. More enshittification, nothing new is created but the service gets worse in the name of profitability.
Don’t worry, guys. After creators eat THIS shit sandwich it’ll stop getting worse and everything will be great.
I had a video of a newsworthy event a while back that went viral, and I made over 5 grand on it over the course of about 2-3 years when YouTube changed its monetization policy to require like 10k subscribers or something before the creator could monetize.
The video didn’t stop getting views. It had a spike in views just a few weeks ago when something similar happened in the same area. But I haven’t made any money from it in like 8 years.
YouTube became evil the moment we all dislike-bombed their year in review video and they never made another one.
YouTube became evil when google ditched their slogan “don’t be evil!”.
So, it was evil from the start. It just needed to lure enough uncritical consumers in before enshittification started. Piece by piece.
YouTube became evil the moment Google got involved.
Maybe but YouTube wouldn’t have existed if it wasn’t for the years Google paid for it with no monetization in sight.
It was doing just fine until Google bought it.
Uh. No it wasn’t. Google footed the bill for years until they were able to make money on it. I’m not saying poor Google but to assume youtube would still exist without Google’s cash is very unlikely.
YouTube wasn’t created or owned by Google, originally.
I subscribed to YouTube Red back in the day, when that’s what it was called.
Then circa early 2018 they changed the rules for monetisation from the previous 10k lifetime views to 1k subs & 4k watch hours over 12 months. That was when I unsubscribed from Red and installed an ad blocker. I had always been anti ad-blocker because my view was that people creating content deserve to get paid for it. That’s still my view in principle, but the increasing enshittification of the web thanks in no small part to shit like this from Google has meant I weigh the pros & cons differently. YouTube showed me very directly that they don’t care about supporting their creators. So I decided I didn’t want to support them anymore. It’s not like this was the first problem…the whole “where’s the fair use” thing came before that, and many other events besides. But cutting off small creators like that, without even grandfathering in existing creators who had been monetised with that threshold, was the last straw for me.
It was also Google’s fault that I moved from Ad Block Plus, which I chose specifically because of its “acceptable ads” policy (basically: let through ads that aren’t obnoxious), to uBlock Origin, which lacked such a policy, after YouTube tried blocking ad blockers from YouTube, and UBO was quicker to adapt.
That’s twice now that Google’s own actions have directly led to me supporting them less than I used to. This won’t be the third time, but only because I have no more cuts to give.
Today I went on shorts and the first video was tucker carlson dropping antisemtic slurs while he cried about ben shapiro. I’m a lib. I don’t watch that garbage. straight up shithole company.
You’re going to need to specify the alleged slurs. Too many people chalk shit like “Israel shouldn’t get to murder children” as anti-semitism.
Tucker Carlson is a genuine old school European Nazi type anti-Semite.
He is a white supermaist so Jews are not the only group he want to supress. Muslims are the biggest target of remigration calls
Yes sure but the point is the way in which Carlson does antisemitism is the very traditional style, with the conspiracy theories about jews running the world and the charicatures and so on. Nazis famously didn’t love other non white people either, I understand he has plenty of hate to go around. But he is a legit antisemite unlike most people who get called that these days.
Just like tucker spread conspiracies against Jews, he spread conspiracies against Muslims and other group. Can we stop putting a ranking on which type of racism is more important?
It’s not about what racism is more important. Don’t put words in my mouth. As if happens, in this moment anti Muslim hate is actually globally much more important than antisemitism but that has nothing to do with the point I’m making. Just talking about one thing doesn’t mean it’s more important than another thing. IMO it’s quite meaningful to understand the various flavours of right-extremism, it explains a lot about the tensions between the various factions for example. There is currently substantial division on the right about whether to support Israel because they are killing Muslims or to hate them as well because they are Jews, and you may not care or want to think about that, it’s perfectly valid, but the way it plays out will have serious political consequences and effects on the lives of many people
i don’t even want to say it but I get ya and no, it was like a term nazis would use when referring to Jewish food. I just think it’s so incredibly fucked up that the youtube’s algorithm was pumping that vid while a million other vids exist. Unreal.
Big corp squeezing more money from people “because share holders want progress”. BS
I know nothing about how YT works. How is 20 million shorts views in 90 days a viable number? That seems ridiculous.
I guess they’ll keep pushing it till the line starts going down.
I watch less YouTube than ever thanks to the sheerly ridiculous amount if ads.
Remember everybody. Get a vpn with a node in albania. Youtube cannot force a signin or display ads to people in albania.
Its really that simple.
Ads??
Yeah no kidding. Morphe is a blessing. Same with ublock.
Do you know where the option is in morphe to get the feed on the front page back? For some reason mine is blank suddenly and I don’t know how to fix it
Might I suggest trying to update the app, both the pre-patched one and the patches applied.
I think I did recently but I’ll try again
You should be browsing from your subscriptions. Youtube front page is just monetized slop, for discovery talk to your friends let them be the slop filter (or worst case reddit)
I don’t have subs as I don’t log into youtube, and it always just gave me an algo feed before based on what I usually watch. This happened once before but I don’t remember how I fixed it. Maybe it just needs an update like armok suggested
YouTube says the changes are being introduced to “keep pace with the growth of YouTube, which now sees over 200 billion daily Shorts views and over a billion hours of watch time on TV” every day.
This reminds me of some past employment positions I had with extremely lucrative companies that, upon several employees having pushed and developed their skills to be able to reach production quotas (despite increasing safety hazards), simply raised production standards to avoid paying what was promised (certainly not meeting the threshold of what workers are worth).
In short, if you are a content creator on YouTube, do it for the love of your hobby and make money with your day job.
In short, if you are a content creator on YouTube, do it for the love of your hobby and make money with your day job.
The problem with this is that if you want to get any exposure you have to keep the algorithm happy and the algorithm wants consistent release schedules which means you’ll always have that hanging over your shoulder and fucking up once means nobody will ever see your video in the sea of millions of other videos. It’s an absolute meat grinder which is why so many channels fade out and why people try to do it full time.
Sure you can upload as a hobby but if people aren’t watching it, why go through all the trouble?
All creators start out with zero viewers. That’s just something you have to do until you get traction
The same goes for bands and whatever else
If you can’t deal with that then don’t try
Yeah almost everybody starts from zero but the thing that boosts them up from that is typically the algorithm or ‘winning the lottery’ with some video that goes viral on other platforms. Imagine starting a band with your buddies for fun but you’re forced to play shows every week at the local bar for no pay. If you don’t see a return from that at some point, most would give up before long. I watch a lot of automotive youtubers who start out working on cars in their garage and a few have blown up big while most, at a certain point, just stop uploading or maybe upload once every 6 months before trying again and quitting again. Even ChrisFix with his tens of millions of subs has basically given up (though I think his situation is different where he can just coast off merch sales and revenue from past videos).
Very few experience a sudden burst I think. Most just grind untill one day they have a solid base
Of course most just give up at some point where they can’t tank it financially or mentally anymore
I think it’s called vlogging. Like journaling, it can help yo look back at what worked for you and didn’t, perhaps one day what didn’t work will, when you catch something you missed, before. And there are legitimate other platforms, like PeerTube, but you’re not guaranteed views there either, so again, for the love of your hobby.
Pichai you fucking banchode.
Meanwhile, you set yourself up on PeerTube and add a Monero address to your tipping thing and people can tip you as soon as they want to, whether you have one view and less than a watch hour or billions of views and tons of watch hours.
You can set up tipping links on youtube on day one as well.
And it has a much bigger pool of potential viewers.
and or Ethereum, Nano or XPR
Do you really want to use a surveillance chain though?
Thank you for this suggestion.
Nice. Would be good to see youtube go away or go back to people making things for the love it.
Sadly, needing to regulate for CSA, etc. causes it all to get centralized. Also, it’d be great if everyone could self-host their content and then post the searchable in a fediverse indexing host or something?
