• noughtnaut@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      And sad that, even so, Firefox has been a rounding error in global usage data. 😢

      I’ve been using Firefox since it existed, never been disappointed. I just hope that it (or Mozilla) didn’t eventually go bankrupt and dies. You can say what you want about the politics and financing of Mozilla but we desperately need them to prevail.

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        17 days ago

        Same here. I also can count on one hand the occasions where a site was broken in FF but worked in Chromium. And for a majority of those, that was intentional (aka no actual issue, switchtig the user-agent “fixed” the site). So I have little understanding when people say they can’t use Firefox because pages break.

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          15 days ago

          To be fair, changing your browser agent is on the technical side of things, in my opinion this goes beyond “refilling washer fluid in your car” but more like swapping out the licence plate light for a different colour - few people realise that’s even a thing you can do, and that it has any effect.

          Moreover, users should not be blamed when it’s clearly the other party who’s being willfully obstructionist. But I understand your sentiment. It’s tiresome, right?

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          And for a majority of those, that was intentional (aka no actual issue, switchtig the user-agent “fixed” the site).

          same here and it became bad enough to force me to install an extension to switch the user agent dynamically.

          So I have little understanding when people say they can’t use Firefox because pages break.

          goes to prove the depths of the lack of technical illiteracy that the western world has been shepherded into.

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            16 days ago

            So I have little understanding when people say they can’t use Firefox because pages break.

            goes to prove the depths of the lack of technical illiteracy that the western world has been shepherded into.

            Just to be clear: I don’t mean that I expect most people to know about user agent strings. I just cannot confirm the “so many sites don’t work!” complaints, flat out

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        16 days ago

        Same, very rarely “disappointed” with FF outside of the core browser (like the days when Chrome could point to how much RAM older FF was stuck using before Chrome became worse). Still used it as default on desktop and laptop since like 03~04, and completely switched on Android when they started allowing limited extensions (and now can basically force almost all).

        The sites themselves are what I actually feel extremely disappointed about. Back when I did randomly buy/stream songs/albums from Amazon it would work. But now they pretend to work and then act like my browser “is out of date” (even link the FF site knowing there isn’t an update and pulls the old IE tactic of really pushing “better with Chrome” or whatever). I don’t use the Netflix site, but know that they have intentionally dark patterned using it on FF with fake limits on being 720p, and very much can run 1080p with third-party extensions likely spoofing Chrome/Chromium coded DRM (I am guessing that is what is being done at least).

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          15 days ago

          Companies are even worse. My girlfriend’s boyfriend was trying to buy a train ticket from Deutsche Bahn, and there just were none available. It was baffling. He asked me to check (because he was in a hotel room) and I, too, could not find any.

          Turns out, they refuse to sell tickets to customers that use Linux!!?! Change the OS in your browser ID string, and magically all sorts of tickets appear!

          Like wtf, how purposefully evil do you have to be to run a business like that? What is even the point?