I love GIMP and no amount of tedious naysaying will ever change my mind
Same! It’s great! And weird. But mostly great!
I keep discovering new capabilities
I did a few tutorials years ago. I realized that the way it did things was different from Photoshop and, in some ways, better. I could appreciate some of the design choices.
The problem is that most people learn PS first and then don’t learn Gimp at all, and then when they find out Gimp doesn’t work like Photoshop, they decide that it sucks.
I’ve been using it for decades.
If they’d make the macroing system idiot proof, maybe talk to some portrait photographers about how they use Photoshop and help them achieve their workflows, they could seriously shut down some Adobe.
The page 404s
What is the upgrade?
I think that’s the new page : https://testing.gimp.org/news/2026/08/16/dev-update-august-2026/
@Hadriscus @phoenixz Just FYI, that’s from our testing page (note the subdomain), so it’ll give you a 404 again once we push it from drafts to the live site.
ah, the whole thing’s a draft. I understand now
Logo change!
I’ve recently tried using GIMP again and, as a past detractor, I’ve gotta say it’s improved significantly.
Honestly so much better when they moved away from the “everything is a floating window” interface. I can find stuff now.
I really liked the floating window approach. I don’t mind the new way, but I enjoyed the floaties when they were the default.
There’s a toggle to go back
exactly. i’ve used photoshop professionally and tried gimp then.
gimp is not quite there yet, but the potential can now be seen.
To be fair, Photoshop peaked about 10 years ago and has been steadily getting worse. It’s only a matter of time before they’re neck and neck.
i pin it around the time they turned it into a subscription with CC. is that 10 years ago already?
It was in the ballpark of 2014-15ish IIRC, so a little over ten years
Not to down on them too much but this comment is kind of funny in the context of a 30 year old program.
if you think about it, phones are where the “new” programs actually are.
no it isnt. we keep hearing this and no, they never have a massive upgrade. that project doesnt do massive. that’s not how it’s ever be run. its stable, predictable, sane, but ugly things we have all hated forever will never be massively revamped in a single update.
i’ve used GIMP since 2017 bc photoshop was ridiculisly expensive and GIMP is free. i still use it. yes its ugly, but it works :3
It would be cool if GIMP’s new format could remember the undo history. I sometimes save edited images as XCF projects so I can quickly make a tweak and re-export it if I need to, but if you do something like crop, color grade, etc., and then save it, you can’t undo that later when you reopen the project file because the original, unmodified image data has been lost. You can work around this somewhat by saving unmodified versions of something to its own disabled/invisible layer, but it would make things easier if there was some kind of undo history preservation so you could open a project and sift thru the history of operations performed on the image.
I’ve always wanted to see gimp on the same level of blender.
Blender is astounding at how much it can do, but boy does it feel like a project that suffered major scope creep. There seems to be years worth of “but what if it could also do this?” attached to it. As a novice Blender user I still find the UI incredibly difficult to work with.
I’m hundreds of hours in and I still sometimes accidentally hit the wrong hotkey and spend 39 minutes figuring out why edit mode doesn’t edit anymore, or why I can’t weight paint in weight mode.
Feature discovery has become more organic and less “unfuck blender” though, so that’s nice.
The grass is uh, slightly less brown on the other side I guess?
Phenomenal program though.
I haven’t trusted gimp since the first time I watched Pulp Fiction
Very interesting, thanks for the update
they better add a fucking draw circle tool istg
it exists lol, just make a circle selection and then “stroke selection”
Or, hear me out, a tool that draws a circle.
It is okay to say that GIMP can technically do this, and also that it needs a straight up circle tool. Not having a live preview of what you are doing is not good UX in this situation.
“GIMP can technically do this” should be its tagline.
That’s how I felt when I discovered non-destructive layer transformations are (technically) possible
Still bothered it doesn’t have a preview tho
@janus2 @Vosh You’ll be happy to know it’s in the cards. Proof of Concept now that we have vector layers: https://fosstodon.org/@CmykStudent/116455148076446506
I haven’t touched it lately since a new contributor was interested in implementing it, but one way or the other I hope to get it into 3.4.
I used to work in schools IT and I managed to get a lot of FOSS tools into regular use amongst both staff and students; Audacity, Libre Office, Firefox, even Debian in a few IT labs… but the one that never stuck was GIMP because no teacher is going to tell their class they’ll be using GIMP today.
I know this is a tired point and will probably never be fixed, but that name causes more problems than anything else.
Yep, always felt the same way. Can’t be seriously suggested in a professional environment simply because of its name. Whole project been shooting itself in the foot with a machine gun since day 1.
There’s a meme floating about somewhere that goes:
Windows Tool: Producix Pro for Business 2024
MacOS Tool: Sweesh
Linux Tool: klitoris
and this kinda feels like that.
I tried Debian for two hours and said fuck this and I went straight back to Ubuntu. I might try it again when I know more about it. For now I’m still very much a noob. Debian’s still Ubuntu’s boring cousin to me and I’m working on making it the fun one I want to invite over.
What puritanism does to a mf
proffessors could say “we’ll be using Gnu Image processing” or “Gnu Imp” if they wanted to get lame about it. The real big knoggin move is to just call it GIMP and silently dare your students to act like children
Tell me you’ve never tried to control a class of teenagers without telling me you’ve never tried to control a class of teenagers.
Kids would eat you alive.
Could you eli5 why gimp doesn’t work as a name, i genuenly don’t know…
It’s a derogatory term as well as a BDSM term.
Is it derogatory?
Definitely thought it was a humiliation thing
Some consider it an ableist term
Ahhh ok noted
Genuine question, how did you know BDSM but not gimp?
One can know about a general topic and not know the details of the topic.
Well shit, I never cared about the name but this convinced me because adoption and teaching about FOSS matters more.
I only learned about this “negative connotation” from people yelling about how GIMP name is bad.
I work in municipal government, and I just renamed the shortcuts on my work computer to avoid having to explain it to another mayor or councilmember. I think they’re adding Photoshop to the bufget anyway next year. GIMP is good for free, but I have to admit Photoshop really is the king of photo editors.
I do really like Inkscape though.
The FOSS software I find to be the most impressive, however, is QGIS. I have ArcGIS and QGIS both installed on my machine and use them both heavily. For data processing, I usually go with QGIS, but then I make most of my deliverables in ArcGIS because it has a way better layout editor and lots of other software and angencies require me to use ESRI REST services.
But I can go with the cheapest ESRI licenses because I don’t have to pay an extra 4 grand a year for the “Erase” tool when I can punch a hole in a shapefile in QGIS for free. And I openly said as much in my last meeting with ESRI when they were trying to get me to upgrade.
We should rename it the Gnu Image Leveraging Framework.
This is always interesting to hear because as someone who went school in a non English speaking country, GIMP was obviously never an issue. In most of the world the name isn’t an issue.
I only learned about that alternative meaning years later.
But for millions of people it is… the fact that it isn’t for some cultures does not negate the influence for those where it is. Companies like Apple will skip numbers and names if it’s a problem in one place (like say China) because they realize more adoption is useful. Old Gimp heads though just whine about America or some shit and wonder why nobody fucking uses it after 30 years.
Everything about this project is always saying they’re looking for input and design ideas but their old-ass users shoot down every person that has anything to say, many of whom have ideas from working as actual professionals for those same thirty years.
monkey paw curls, we keep it gimp but pronounce it gimp
How dare you make me sound that out in my head.
gimp
G I M P
G(ee) I (A)M P(ee)
…
Krita for the win if you just need the drawing part. Left Gimp long time ago for Krita and never looked back.
The UI needs a global overhaul since the day one and still nobody talks about it
@BlackLaZoR @Vosh I think lots of people talk about it. :)
We have a dedicated UX site for people share to feedback on that very topic, which we try to implement as we can: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/GIMP/Design/gimp-ux/-/work/_items
The hope is that over time, designers will get more comfortable and work on larger design challenges (like how new code contributors start small and hopefully grow to develop more complex features)
I’ve been using Photo Gimp plugin with it for years. Otherwise the interface would be an absolute mess.
I’ve never understood the purpose of PhotoGimp. I get why it exists. But it doesn’t do anything magical that GIMP isn’t already designed to let you do in the first place…which is move around, open, close and organize any window or dock into any place you want.
Anyone who has used GIMP for more than a few days has long since organized it to their own personal workflow; even some that look like photoshop.
The same goes for keyboard shortcuts. You can change literally everything about how GIMP looks anytime you want. So why lock yourself into some script that makes it look like a clone of some corporate crap, and worse…donate to the guy who designed said script as though he made something significant that no one else could achieve.
It’s very existence is a lie. Users aren’t locked into anything and he didn’t do some magic to change that. It’s literally how GIMP is designed to be customized.
Play with it. Have fun with it. That’s the entire point.
It’s basically just a drop in configuration to make it look and feel more like the Photoshop interface. Can you accomplish the same with tinkering? Sure. Do I want the spend all day trying to make it look pretty when I need to actually be working in the software? Hell no. Just drop in the plugin and get to work. It has it’s place. It would be less necessary if GIMP default layout didn’t suck right out of the box.
Can you turn it on and off easily? I know my way around photoshop but still want to learn vanilla gimp.
No it’s not just an on/off toggle. You’d have to uninstall the plugin. Install/Uninstall instructions are on the repo page. https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP
I can do loads of stuff despite GIMP’s efforts to stop me.
Use Krita instead. It has a big tiddy anime waifu right on the splash screen.
Now you got me.
If they add the feature to set white point in the level tool I’m there. Last I checked they had some bullshit brush-off about how it wasn’t relevant because it’s designed for drawing or some bollocks.
Sorry that my sketches were on paper that wasn’t pure white, I guess?
Different project scope tho.
Krita does not support random niche format like GIMP.
Yes but the UI is 💯 easier to use.
The number 1 problem with GIMP is poor UI in my experience.
Easier interface AND anime aesthetics? Sign me up.
Are they going to upgrade the name as well?
GYMP? 💪✨🤭
Yeah I think they’re going for something more straightforward that describes exactly what it’s about
Brushes, Design, Shapes & Multimedia
To avoid confusion: BDSM, the FOSS formerly known as GIMP
I would not feel comfortable looking this up on a work computer.
Did you feel comfortable searching to learn how to use GIMP?
Not at work. Certainly not.
yes
Or else it will be a sub-module.
Or: Graphics, Images, Media & Print
This would really mess up search results
Yeah, now I’m just gonna get screenshots of this app.
That would produce so many priceless weirded out faces when you tell someone you love GIMP and use that acronym and they don’t know what you are referring to.
Why should they change the name just for the vanity of Americans who have a dual meaning for the word, and make it difficult for the whole rest of the world to find tutorials and documentation going back decades?
have you not met many Americans ?
they’re also big into CBT with their GIMP, or their therapist. i can never remember which one
It’s not just awkward for Americans, but for the entire English speaking world - at least 470 million people. How can anyone seriously recommend a business use a program called GIMP? It is a massive hurdle to adoption in the corporate world. They should change the name, or at least create a business-oriented alias.
I mean my business has no problem using it here in the motherland of the English language…?
Any time we talk to a client about it they are just happy to hear that we’re using software that doesn’t ingest their work into AI, crash in the middle of consultations, and produces working files that will be usable forever.
I do wonder how much of this is the seeming aversion to context that a subset of Americans seem to have. The meaning of words varies by context, that’s like, a normal thing in English. If I said in a meeting that I’d been “pissing about the office whilst waiting for John to be done in his other meeting”, that doesn’t mean I’d been urinating on the carpets!
I’m in the UK. I use it as my primary image editor on my work computers. Should we be avoiding using LaTeX too because in a different context it’s a kink thing?
It just seems such a weird thing to be prudish about in this day and age. English words are regularly contextual and in a business environment why would one go to the NSFW context as default?
English is diverse language and each regional English have their own offensive world that have different meaning in different English speaking area.
Maybe you should meet more Indian English speaker and Singaporean English speaker. Heck, Australian English invent various offensive word.
Yes but we don’t use them in professional contexts.
There is no Dickheadsoft, no Drongo Ware. We haven’t call any software C.U.N.T.
GIMP means the same thing here and it’s just as unprofessional.
My point is that due to British colonialization, English is now a diverse language that have diverse new word and regional meaning.
GIMP in English Asia doesn’t have bad connotation. Not in Singaporean English, not in Indian English.
Making one standard of English is just reeks language colonialism.
So in order to make it less awkward for ~500M people, we should make it more awkward for the rest of the 7.8B people.
How would changing the name make it more awkward? Giving up a huge market for no reason other than old nerds crying about a change.
Everyone knows it by that name, even in non english speaking countries.
They themselves gave a good explanation. They’d lose brand recognition, they’d expose the name to scammers using it to sell or distribute their own software, and years of tutorials, guides and books would instantly be harder to find and outdated.
It makes no sense to give up all that, and to force such a change on the whole world, just because some speakers of a single language don’t like it.
This comes up every time GIMP is mentioned. To be honest, outside US and UK (and few others) for the rest of the world the word GIMP has no negative meaning (no meaning at all). So, yeah, maybe who cares about the name? Well, change it if it’s really a problem. But, is it really a problem?
Fair point is GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) doesn’t sound as a reasonable acronym. I would maybe find a better acronym, but changing the name itself feels like changing the name of the town of Bra in Italy or the town of Fuck in Austria, or why not, even the town of Love in Sweden… Good luck if we need to only find and use names that do not offend anybody in any language of the world.
Krita, the main FOSS competitor to GIMP, feels a much worse sounding name to me. By the way, i read GIMP with a soft G (like a j) not even as English speakers do pronounce it.
Honestly I think some people just want to be offended. “Oh I can’t use this in class because of the name” is complete nonsense. If the faculty are going to immediately assume you’re doing weird sex things with the kids then you’ve got bigger communication problems.
gimp /gĭmp/
noun
A narrow flat braid or rounded cord of fabric used for trimming.
A limp or a limping gait.
A person who limps.I suppose the association with limping is a bit unfortunate. Although GIMP is an acronym.
The fact that a particular sub-culture has its own slang meaning for the word is irrelevant.
No it’s not. It’s very relevant - it’s the reason I’ve never recommended the software to anyone outside of close friends.
Wouldn’t it be easier to recommend it and if they give you a look about the name you act like you’ve no idea what they’re talking about?
Why? It describes succinctly what the app does.
Is anyone interested in having GIMP with another name doing the work to make that happen?
@SkavarSharraddas @Vosh @AllNewTypeFace Actually, there’s been “official” development on that front: https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#i-dont-like-the-name-gimp-will-you-change-it
There was a fork some time ago with that intention, but I think they ended up ceasing the project
That’s a US defaultism issue
It was created in the US and named in specific reference to the offensive meaning of the word, so I would say that makes it pretty relevant.
That means shit for FOSS. AND the Evil Empire is dying.
Why is a sexual term automatically offensive?
Because he lives in a fucked up puritan place.
Being sexual doesn’t automatically make it offensive, it just makes it unprofessional. As software that is seeking widespread adoption, its acceptance in professional environments matters. I could make a program called Skrotum if I thought it was funny, but I wouldn’t be surprised when people are hesitant to recommend it to others because of the name I chose.
What makes it offensive is that it’s a slur for handicapped people. That’s the origin of the BDSM term and the use that was popularized by the character in Pulp Fiction that was specifically referenced by the creators of GIMP.
Don’t be silly. There’s no better name than GIMP.
Green Is My Pepper!
