• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    25 days ago

    That’s propaganda for you.

    And most of that minority are going to end up liking the results of his actions as time goes on.

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      24 days ago

      The propaganda is coming from the reader that failed to read beyond the headline and spread misinformation.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    25 days ago

    To be fair, news media have been dicks before. In the cold war, we were so afraid of USSR that it was difficult to find news critical of the US and its government policies. We have the longstanding existence of an ideological enemy to blame for the push of our Overton window to the right. (Also a propaganda effort by the owner class to do that.)

    I was taught about news literacy in the late 1980s in college Logic and Critical Thinking. It became useful in the aughts, when George W. Bush was trying to push going into Iraq after we were sore about the 9/11 attacks, and then later when they wanted to suppress the torture and PMCs and war crimes.

    At the time we relied on foreign media, and turned to multiple sources to get the facts straight. In the Trump era, there’s a lot of independent media, sometimes getting raided by FBI or ICE.

    When a news source injects a bit of spin in its stories, that’s the management of the news agency telling you who they are.

    ETA: Musk buying up Twitter and Bezos directly intervening in the management of WaPo should serve as warnings that the owner class is actively trying to suppress free and fair journalism. We also used to have a lot more investigative stories than we do now.

    Share links to stories that tell the truth.

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      26 days ago

      They show a pic of Mamdani and then report on statewide feelings. At a glance, one would think that those in NYC aren’t supportive. Which was the idea they’re pushing.

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        26 days ago

        You’d think there´d be a deep interest in EXPOSING all the horribly unpopular policies the DSA is proposing… yet, tragically, the article does not even mention a single one. Sad.

        Edit: Most political parties will poll lower than their policies because people are tribal and don´t want to support the “other” team. So you take a poll on a THIRD party and what you have is a statistic that tells you nothing you don´t already know, but is a little propaganda point.

    • Saapas@piefed.zip
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      26 days ago

      Siena University poll showed that 30% of New York voters like the DSA and 47% don’t have a favorable view of them.

      Meanwhile, 23% are unsure about how they feel about the movement.

      Not quite the numbers the person thought

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        26 days ago

        Let’s compare “Support” to “somewhat unfavorable” + “unfavorable” + “Clearly Unfavorable” + “Against”. Statistic brought to you by yet another billionaire lol.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    24 days ago

    Many of the best things in America are Socialist: Public schools, libraries, museums, fire departments, municipal parks/playground, state parks, national parks, highways, bridges, monuments, etc.

    Many people are far more afraid of the WORD Socialist, than actual Socialist concepts. Socialism and Communism have become far too closely associated, to the point of being synonyms, and the Dems have to change that perception.

    That’s just one key part of their messaging game that they have take control of. The Conservative Propaganda Machine does a great job of not only controlling their own messaging, but the Dems have always allowed them to define Democratic concepts as well. It’s long past time when the Dems flip the tables, and take control of their own messaging, and start defining MAGA as treasonous, corrupt, racist, and pedophilic, and depraved.

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    24 days ago

    ignoring it will not work, it will only make the tide rise against them while their heads are in the sand.

  • subgenius@lemmy.zip
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    Democratic Socialism is where citizens of democracies pay taxes to support their fire departments, military, health care systems etc. They still believe in free markets and your life improving if you work hard/go to school etc. It’s only corrupt politicians and the ignorant that equate social programs with Communism. Americans have been gaslighted by the financial elite to view social programs as a hand out, because the elite receive no profit from them.

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    24 days ago

    I remember when the media was castigating the 10% or whatever of Bernie voters who said that they would vote for Trump if Bernie didn’t get nominated.

    The framing was “There at X number of Bernie bros who are disloyal and will punish the Democrats by voting Trump” instead of “Bernie would take X number of voters from Trump”. Same story, but completely different spin.

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      25 days ago

      Never concede to right-wing framing

      The polices are popular. The more Democratic socialists in office that deliver positive material change, the more popular it becomes

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        Never concede to right-wing framing

        Democrats aren’t conceding to it. They’re writing it for them.

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          23 days ago

          Yeah, establishment Dems and Reps are two sides of the same coin that is controlled opposition

          DSA all the way

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      25 days ago

      this is the shit that would transform the US to a beautiful place to live in

      Social democracy alone could do that? You might be overestimating it then. Ideologies are not magic

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      25 days ago

      “If we stop calling it global warming then they’ll understand. It’s all about messaging, they’ll come around if we give them what they claim to want.”

      That’s you.

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    26 days ago

    Hey boss, this poll says 60% of people support democratic socialists. How are we gonna reword this?

    Bose: just flip the stat and make the sentence negative

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    Currently socialism to these guys = Not having a corrupt government ran by special interest.

    This is what they are afraid of. Not socialism coming to town but a government that actually works. The corrupt media is pushing bullshit to benefit the wealthy class so the people don’t come for their golden goose.

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    25 days ago

    Richer people want things to stay as they are. Poorer people want things to change.

    It’s the same everywhere all the time: democracies, dictatorships, communism, fascism, monarchies, etc.

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      25 days ago

      People don’t see anything. They are desperate, brainwashed enough or don’t have time to do anything due to poverty that system locked them in.

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      24 days ago

      I wish this were true. But the machinery of capitalism can buy up and integrate private journalist institutions (or censor them out of existence) faster and more fluidly than individual information consumers can get out of the way.

      Look at the way Newsmax has supplanted Fox, despite hosting all the same awful opinions from many of the same awful opinions. Or how Musk has gobbled up Twitter and Reddit, pushing a minority of a minority onto spaces like Mastadon, Bluesky, and Lemmy. Or Bezos buying WaPo. Or the Ellisons gobbling up CBS. Or Biden letting Donald Trump hand TikTok to his former Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin for a song.

      At some point, there’s nowhere to run.