For people like Morgan, however, no-fault divorce has stripped him of what he views as a constitutional right to protest the dissolution.
He told Chron his views were shaped by watching his father go through a divorce and later experiencing divorce himself, one he did not want.
“When we utter our vows, many people say, ‘Till death do you part.’…My vows are more important than anything… I made this vow to God, and my wife was the beneficiary of my vow,” Morgan argued.
and later experiencing divorce himself, one he did not want
Too fucking bad? You don’t get to opt out of divorce.
It sounds like he has been through one and working his way through a second.
So go ahead and die, you asshole. She was your wife, not your property. If you had ever even sort-of understood that then you might not be divorced.
Legally forcing women to stay in relationships they want to leave is how you get “accidently” poisoned husbands.
As usual the extreme right doesn’t think things through to their logical conclusion.
Sounds like he wishes for someone to die.
I always say Alternative to divorce is death do you part. Looked at some numbers and its terrible.
When unilateral “no fault” divorce laws started passing one state at a time, starting with Governor Ronald Reagan in California in 1969, researchers wanted to see the effect. In states that passed unilateral no-fault divorce, they observed:
The suicide rate for wives drop by 8-16%.
The domestic violence rate by and against both men and women dropped by 30%.
The homicide rate of women murdered by their partner dropped by 10%.
stuff like this is going to lead to a lot of husbands becoming “suddenly ill” after eating dinner. in biblical days, women had ways of getting out of abusive relationships.
I think you mean “women had ways of getting out of relationships”.
Not all men are abusive. Not all women leave bad men, some leave good men who tried their best. Just the woman “wasn’t happy”.
When one party wants to terminate the relationship and the other disallows that from happening, that is by definition an abusive relationship. There’s no such thing as a non-abusive relationship with someone who doesn’t want to be in that relationship in the first place.
That isnt what I said
You can’t just say “that isn’t what I said” and then delete what you said, lol
But they TOOK a VOW…to DEATH in front of a male (better have been a male) preacher…
I’m also 100% sure any asshole making this argument hasn’t actually done anything to preserve a relationship with their partner.
which is okay? The women that leave because theyre not happy? Ive had men leave me because they werent happy? I didnt cry (much) about it, and moved on to find someone I could make happy?
Women can leave a safe relationship without poisen. A controlling nightmare a person could be trapped in… anyone with their back against the wall will make choices.
Your statement also completely ignores the men who end up in abusive situations.
Mushroom poisoning
Apparently a common story before divorce.
If anything, this should be what encourages religious chuds to accept no-fault divorce. Either let go of the relationship, or die.
my wife was the beneficiary of my vow
Or maybe not so much.
“For people like Morgan, however, no-fault divorce has stripped him of what he views as a constitutional right to protest the dissolution.”
This guy thinks his unalienable rights are for “life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and also my wife.”
I’m sure he’s never actually read the constitution or the bible.
Morgan, divorce or not, she doesn’t want to be with you.
It’s not about anything she wants, obviously.
I was going to make some suggestions but on checking google for US laws. Lol you guys are fucked, I thought shit like this only happened in countries like Iran.
Republicans are unfuckable losers who deserve to die alone.
Don’t get married in Texas, Jesus.
Don’t get married.
Better yet…
Don’t fuck Republicans
Not like they are wont to give you any choice on the matter.
It’s even more dangerous for a woman to have sex in Texas
Fucking a republican is always bad for your health, reputation, money, and status
First of all, this is Texas. A state where a teenage girl knew she was going to be beaten — not spanked, but beaten — for listening to secular music on the family computer, so she set up a hidden camera and filmed, then posted the beating online, which was participated in by both parents, who seemed to enjoy it. But, because the father was a judge or lawyer or some such, nothing ever really came of it. The video went viral some 10-15 years ago.
This is a US state which has established, through legal precedent, that women and girls are property.
As for what this actually means (I read the article), what it means is that the Republican Party wants to ban no-fault divorce, which is divorce without cause, and they want to ban single-party divorce. They want it so both parties have to agree to it. If the woman wants to leave but the man doesn’t want her to, that’s his property under proposed Texas law and he can retain ownership.
Of course, marriage is a business contract where assets obtained after the marriage are split. The problem with no-fault marriage, to these people, is that a woman can leave of her own volition, that her husband has to treat her well to keep her, and that she can take what’s hers. What they want is a situation where a woman can’t leave unless the man releases her, and if she does something to end the marriage, such as adultery (cheating on him), she can lose everything she’s earned since the marriage, which further keeps her in the man’s control.
And this is what a lot of Texas votes for. Of course, if you look up the big schools in Texas, and then overlay a map of these universities with a voting map, you’ll see the blue spots are where the schools are, just like in any red state. People with education almost exclusively vote blue. People without… vote red.
They want to make marital rape legal again
Possibly. Trump did it in the 90s when it was legal in New York — maybe the 80s? His first wife, IIRC.
Also, I think your operative word marital is a bit unnecessary, given the GOP’s MO.
See, I don’t care if someone doesn’t want to end their own vows. You can make a vow to do anything. As long as it only involves you, then you do you.
Everyone else, though gets to make their own decisions for themselves. If they don’t want to continue in a legal marriage contract, they can leave it. That’s a personal choice and they live with the consequences of that choice. Split the wealth, work out kids, and move out.
I wouldn’t wish a divorce on anyone. Been there, it sucks. Even if it’s the right choice, it sucks. But sometimes the suck of the divorce is less than the suck of staying, so people can choose to leave a relationship. That’s what adults do.
Trying to force your ex-partner to stay is because you’re a coward. Face your own life and the voices you made.
On his podcast in 2023, Crowder lamented that his wife no longer wanted to be married to him, “and in the state of Texas, that is completely permitted.”
“It’s been the most heartbreaking experience of my life,” Crowder said, “But in today’s legal system, my beliefs don’t matter. In Texas, divorce is permitted when one party wants it, period.”
Days after the podcast aired, video footage from a Ring camera was leaked showing Crowder berating his then-pregnant wife during an argument at their home. The footage, recorded in June 2021, showed his wife, who was eight months pregnant at the time, attempting to leave as Crowder confronted her over what he described as a lack of “discipline and respect.”
And blowing cigar smoke in her face, while she was 8 months pregnant. The man does not even care enough for his own child not to do that let alone his wife.
The people demanding respect are too often those who do not deserve it.
Reminds me of when my ex had me in a vehicle and kept blowing cigarette smoke in my face, rather than roll down the window, even though I asked nicely, multiple times, then not nicely, to no avail. Then ran to his cousin and cried about me cursing him out, in front of me, then when I told her what he’d done, said if it were her, she would have knocked the 💩 out of him.
He’s so fragile, he gives himself tachycardia to even approach consideration that he may, in fact, be the problem in all his failed relationships (and wonders why his daughter calls him “sperm donor,” rather than “dad.”
Jeez sorry that happened to you, glad he’s an ex now.
No worries, and thanks so much. I am, too. When we get sick of ourselves, we learn and do the work, or keep blaming everyone else and don’t.
Before my last big breakthrough with crappy romantic relationships, I was sitting alone and didn’t leave my home for three months, while I kicked drama (my own and others’), alcohol, weed, cigarettes (still vaping though, let me be honest), wondering, “why did this and that one treat me so poorly, when I treated them so well,” and saving grace of saving grace, the thought popped into my head, “You let them.” It was the beginning of learning how to set healthy boundaries. Not walls, which are isolating and keep us suspicious, grasping, and nasty, nor wide open, for anyone to exploit. And maybe that’s a lifetime lesson, EE will occasionally trust one who is faking and distrust another who is sincere. The point is learning from mistakes, and discerning when someone who wrongs me has wrong character, in general, or is just going through their own stuff and had a momentary lapse of reason.
Texas wives about to relearn a use for those guns they like so much.
Property don’t get to own things.
I made this vow to God, and my wife was the beneficiary of my vow
What a worthless vow, made to something that doesn’t even exist.
Okay, marriage is a religious thing, then. The government shouldn’t be involved in marriage in the first place. Let’s governments do civil unions only and religions do marriages. Completely separate things.
One is about sharing assets and that sort of thing, which can be enforced by the government, and the other is making promises with make believe entities, which is only enforceable in the land of make believe. It seems like everybody should be happy with this arrangement.
