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Godric@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 22 days ago

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    22 days ago

    Literal definition of “no true Scotsman”

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      21 days ago

      ‘hey maybe an active civil war isn’t an example of imperialism’

      “HURR DURR NO TRUE SCOTSMANNN”

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        “active civil war”

        LOL stay on your meds, kids

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          21 days ago

          What… what do you think modern Chinese history is? While it’s widely regarded as over, no peace treaty was ever signed. And while the KMT dictatorship lost power across the Taiwan islands in 1981, the resulting pseudo-government that formed afterwards also failed to introduce any cessation of hostilities. Hell right up until 1973 the KMT still wanted to invade the mainland again.

          This war, like the Korean war, never ended. There was no formal end to either war, simply a continued pause in the hostilities. Worse, for your position, there is no active ceasefire agreement between the PRC and the pseudo-government on the island. The sole reason hostilities stopped in 1965 was because the US dedicated a carrier group to the area (and all the CIA-backed KMT soldiers that sheltered in Burma were finally routed and slowed their terror attacks down to focus on running drugs). At this point the PRC has dedicated itself to a peaceful unification, which has been the PRC’s position since 1965 when it was clear the few thousand remaining KMT soldiers could do no harm to mainland Chinese citizens and the need to be ever ready for war was taking far too many resources.

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            I’m aware.
            But practically, that’s a difference without distinction. The majority of the rest of the world considers Taiwan to be a sovereign nation, and Taiwan has been acting as such for a long time. Functionally, that argument is the same as Russia is making with Ukraine, and technicalities over academic language doesn’t change that.

            North Korea and South Korea are de facto separate countries, even though their civil war technically didn’t end. If the south invaded the North, that’d be the same.

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