• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This was a joke, right? Good one

    Yeah, it’s Trump, everything will be fine when he dies!

    Trump could never have been elected without you hacks, your corruption made him possible. He could never be in any position of authority without decades of unbridled rot to pave the way… if he’s the monster, you’re the Dr. Frankenstein who created him.

    Good job

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      3 months ago

      Donald Trump is literally everything wrong with The United States of America distilled down to a person and squeezed into an ill fitting suit. All the anti-intelectualism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, paedophilia, war mongering, greed, hate, and cruelty rolled into the ugliest person you’ll ever know. Did I miss anything?

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        3 months ago

        Did I miss anything?

        The other 100million Americans they concentrated to make him.

        Unfortunately this problem doesn’t end with Trump.

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          Some, I assume, are good people.

          Not to directly quote Donald Trump, but I have to assume that some are, actually, good people. In fact, I’d almost want to believe that the majority of them are…just misled, misinformed, and legitimately didn’t see Trump as any sort of a saint, but still somehow saw him as ‘better than Kamala’.

          Whether that was implicit bias or their racism/patriarchy showing, or they had an actual reason based on what they believed to be facts they received…who knows…but I like to believe that the majority of them are the latter.

          Maybe that’s just my New England suburban white-boy privilege showing.

          I also think that the only people that are still driving around with giant Trump flags on their trucks (or especially bikes), are either paid to do so, or are legitimately pedophiles themselves. I’m sure a homeless guy with a bike isn’t too expensive if they are gonna be riding it around anyway.

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        Technically you covered this, but the narcissism rolled up with many of those other things, speaks to abuse, trauma, and how he has always been in an environment where getting professional help was never an option. So now he’s everyone’s problem. Passing the buck on abused people is far too normal around here.

        I’m not saying he’s due a redemption arc (burned FAR too many bridges by now). Rather he’s a symbol of mental health around the US too. He’s a shambling husk made up of pure psychological damage, making every day an exercise in inflicting uncountable numbers of people with more of the same. And all of it was preventable if there weren’t so many institutional and social failures to address it, at every step in their life.

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    It’s not “billionaire class”. It’s owning class.

    It ain’t that they have a lot of money, it’s how they came to acquire that money as an effect of the system of ownership we currently live under incentivising rampant exploitative practices as the most efficient methods of personal enrichment.

    Billionaires are just the best at being exploitative; they aren’t the only ones though.

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      Most billionaires get their money by exploiting loopholes in the government. For example, they pay no taxes, yet the government will still prosecute people who kill them.

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        yet the government will still prosecute people who kill them.

        They actually spend money to keep anyone from even trying.

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        The owning class are the ones who control and dictate our government structure. Of course they are going to create avenues for advancement of their interests. The system was built by them, for them.

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      Yes, of course it’s both, but I think people are upset with the statement because Democrats (with a few exceptions) traditionally bend over backwards trying to ignore the fact that the billionaire class is a HUGE part of the problem.

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      Yes, specifically: The billionaires class hired Trump to do this. They may have gotten more than they bargained for, or they may not care since it’s not yet affecting most of them.

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        Some of them are actively working with Trump towards a future where prison labor in their factories fuels their wealth in perpetuity. It is as simple as incarceration of millions of slave laborers and becoming a government contractor.

        Footage of private prison executives celebrating the Trump reelection leaked when it happened. Some immigration camps are already creating labor.

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          It’s wild because these supposed geniuses have clearly not thought about who the fuck is going to buy all the shit produced by prison labor when EVERYONE IS PRISON LABOR! They’re addicted to making money and will happily squeeze all the money out of everyone till we’re all dead. It’s like if you have a cow and take all the milk and leave nothing for the calves; someday you’ll be left with nothing.

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            It’s completely possible for only the wealthy elite to prosper even if everyone else dives into extreme poverty. That’s the way it worked for thousands of years.

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    3 months ago

    Is Nina retarded? Trump is the candidate for the Billionaire Class. GOP is corrupt to its core. Billionaires fear the DNC.

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      There are billionaires in the DNC, and billionaires who back them. Maybe not as many, but still enough that taxing the rich has never gained any traction even under democratic governments. Billionaires fear nothing in DC, they have proven over and over again they can buy pretty much whoever they need to.

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        There are no sitting billionaire DNC lawmakers. It is literal party platform, in writing, to tax the rich. Biden increased audits on the rich, made a minimum effective taxrate for the rich, and It was Kamala Harris’ campaign promise to make an unrealized gains tax on amounts over a million dollars, which are assets used by billionaires as loan collateral to avoid taxes for their entire life.

        If you were a billionaire, you would be 2.5x more likely to back the GOP than the DNC, and you would likely have a spot reserved in the front or on stage during a GOP inauguration.

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    Both parties are the billionaire class 🤣

    There is no truly left party with any type of power in the US.

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    Every time.

    Neo libs are similarly to blame, not as bad as gqp, but not fixing it either…

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    We didn’t start the fire~ but we love pouring some gasoline on it, oh yeah.~

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    The same old history. Some people infiltrate and manipulate the lefties to not vote, until they will lose their power of voting forever.

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      Nobody needs to infiltrate the left to get them not to vote for the center-right Democratic Party. The elected Democrats do that quite well with no help whatsoever.

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    its unaffordable because both dems and gop collude with each other over things like taxes. this time you cant just blame on trump, hes only the symptom of a larger problem.

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      During a structure fire, the fire department has to start spraying water somewhere to battle the blaze.

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        And when fire brigades began they would watch it burn until ypu met their price, which was not fixed.

        Less scrupulous fire companies had people set fires to drum up business as well.

        Great choice of analogy.

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    Jesus fuck. It can literally be both, especially with this fatted calf.

    Also in terms of affordability of daily good and gas, it literally, majority because of Trump, the billionaire grifter, and his tariffs and his stupid thinking he’s Jesus and started a War with Iran and the Republicans refusing to rein him in and the Democrats voting with them.

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      Hey there’s lots of things you can say about Trump without going right to body-shaming.

      I’d prefer “Gold-plated calf”. It demonstrates both his worthless shell and the chunk of lead underneath. Nothing of value there. Just something dense and toxic.

      Not to mention the biblical reference to him and his base.

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    Lets concider the context:

    House democrats represent the old wave democrats, whereas Nina Turner is part of the Bernie wave. The old wave is dependent on super PACs for getting elected which means they need to lick as many billionaire boots as possible. The Bernie wave is much more credible in that they rely on grass root donations instead of super PACs.

    So when House democrats are saying that Trump is the issue, they are implying that if democrats are governing, then housing prices will improve. But swapping bootlickers with other bootlickers are not going to change anything.

    Change require that we give the middle finger to the billionaires.

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    Hrmm.

    Seeing this again reminds me when I was recently told saying “Democrats” instead of “Democratic Party” is an indicator of having been watching too much right wing media.

    House Democrats

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      The one I see more often is “Democrat Party”. I don’t know if they’re insinuating that the party isn’t actually democratic, but in any case it’s weird and always seemed like another way to manipulate speech and signal who is in the in-group vs. the out-group.

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      Im not sure thats a real thing.

      Possibly a divide and muddle attempt.

      As an “independant” non fascist, non billionaire type i use Republicans/Democrats more than i use the full Party names because its less to type.