A few days ago, the U.S. government sanctioned A/I for supporting “extreme far-left antifa terrorists”. If you didn’t know, A/I is an antifascist and anticapitalist group based in Italy, and they host a lot of services (like email, website hosting, etc.) run through donations. Their policy states that they are against racism, sexism, militarism, homophobia, and transphobia, and you have to agree to those principles to use their services. Their website and mailing server has been taken down, and unfortunately, that also means my email no longer works. It’s kind of insane how quickly the American government can take down internet services they don’t like. A/I has denied all of the allegations by the Trump admin, and rightfully so, they’re just a digital services provider who respect your privacy and are against fascism and bigotry.
relevant link if you want to read more about this: https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10076
I still need to use email, so what’s a good alternative email provider that doesn’t profit off of my data? I have used Disroot in the past and had good experiences with their services, so they are currently my fallback. I have ruled out Proton and Tuta, as neither support IMAP properly.
Largely because they’ve got their
easily purchasable corrupt politiciansreactionary populists running Italy right now. You can’t ignore the politics of the country your host is in, and unfortunately, the billionaires want to extend their oligarchies internationally and would even willingly turn them into dictatorships if that’s what it takes. It’s the canary in the coal mine for Europe, because this is happening in a lot of places there.This doesn’t have anything to do with Italy. A/I has been banned because they used a .org domain, which is under US control.
If any, we should move to a decentralised DNS system.
It already exists with .onions
Iirc AI designed their systems to be decentralized
They’re Italian and rub servers all over the world outside the jurisdiction of the US executive branch.
If they’re down, I assume it’s temporary. Anyway, noblogs had a list of other tech collectives on their website. You can surely load it on way back machine
Any country that uses the dollar is seen by the American government as subordinate to them. They will use that to pursue political goals.
I’ve been using Purelymail for a bit over a year now. It’s nothing special, just a cheap email provider with full IMAP and SMTP support so you can use any client you want. You can also connect as many domains as you want, make as many accounts as you want and you have unlimited storage.
It’s truly amazing, I’m also a customer, but please note two things:
- it’s a very small company and their price is so low that I wonder how long they’ll be able to keep it up
- it’s based in the US
autistici.org is down in the EU, their domain name does not exist anymore. how did they do that? surely they didn’t use a USA based registrar.
inventati.org seems to be up for now
.org is administered by Identity Digital and they are obligated to comply with terror sanctions. The US is embedded at virtually every level of the internet infrastructure and with the magic weapon of “sanctions” can force almost everyone else from providing services to any entity
It’s kind of insane how much control the U.S. has over everything
https://mastodon.bida.im/@cavallette/117172989300228024
@bohwaz @cavallette for once it isn’t Gandi. The .org registry is operated by a US business, who as a result of the sanctions can’t do business with them (autistici)
this is insane and absolutely unacceptable. I guess this is the end of .org and such being a good choice for a domin name. if the operator is not willing to fall in line with the openly fascist USA, they can and will just take you down too
was there at least any legal procedure through Italian courts? or did they just decide to single handedly censor a whole organization?
Italy didn’t do anything. The US decided unilaterally to disable their org domain. If any, some Italian political parties have presented a parliamentary interrogation on the matter
I imagine it’s the latter, I can’t find anything relating to the Italian government participating in this online
both domains seem to be registered with gandi.net, so it’s interesting only one of them got taken down
Their domain got taken down, not their services.
Functionally equivalent most of the time, especially with some services like email even if your servers are running it doesn’t really matter if neither users nor senders can reach them. Do you remember the IP address of your IMAP server by heart?
In any case, this is not just a DNS censor, it’s the full hammer of US “terror”-based sanctions. Their bank accounts are being frozen as Italian banks must comply, they can’t get certificates, hosting contracts with most of the world, and so on. It’s bad
I mean, the fucking way SSL falls over in that case, you can hardly blame anyone.
Mailboxes are being migrated, you should be able to download it. https://mastodon.bida.im/@cavallette/117173281325105884
I will keep that in mine, thanks!
If the domain name gets taken down, (hopefully) there’s still a server listening from an IP address somewhere. In this case, it’s possible to do the following (using the IP address as the domain for the URL, accompanied by a custom
HostHTTP header pointing toautistici.org,noblogs.organd subdomains; notice this will require ignoring SSL certificate errors as the A/I certificates don’t contain the IP addresses as valid SANs). This way, A/I can even migrate their hosting to a VPS somewhere unreachable by USA and they don’t even need the Domain name, given, of course, the nginx configuration stays the same (i.e. using the subdomain aliases to point to all the different blogs hosted thereby) as well as the technical requirement from users to inject a customHostheader into a direct IP URL.The IP address from the screenshot is both from my
dig noblogs.orgthrough my local Brazilian ISP, and also from the status page from kuma.accol.li. If anyone still got working DNS resolutions for Autistici/Inventati servers, write down the IP address (use, for example,digor evencurlto get the IP address for their domains) before said domains stop being solved by the DNS server you use.!nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
Use Chinese digital services lol. Europe are vassal states and the current leaders are downright eager to be subservient to Trump and the US.
Yeah, go from being US’ bitch to China’s bitch.
Assuming OP is within the US or EU then there is no real risk to using Chinese services compared to a real risk when using EU/US services. China can’t arrest you in California or Italy. Also Chinese services are unlikely to cooperate with the US/EU’s increasingly fascist laws. There are other risks like censorship (or the fact that most Chinese services don’t actually serve non-Chinese customers in the first place) but that’s not what OP is concerned about in this post.
China can’t arrest you in California or Italy.
That’s highly debatable.
Also Chinese services are unlikely to cooperate with the US/EU’s increasingly fascist laws.
True, they have their very own flavour of fascism. I just find it ironic that the proposed solution here is to rely on another fascistic state.
The overseas service stations are such a bad faith point in this situation. That would only be able to be used against people who are Chinese citizens, and even according to the Wikipedia page it’s not likely, which OP almost certainly is not.
Yeah. I mean it was just a shitpost because the EU IS becoming more and more fascist. E.g. Italy banned VPNs.
But I have really no clue if using Chinese digital services is even an option. They often seem to need some kind of national id.
If you declare an antifascist organization as terrorism you are outing yourself, mate.
I’m antifascist, I want the death of all Indians (sorry Indians), I want to create a totalitarian regime ruled by complete degenerated person and I’m actively pursuing my goals. If you oppose me, it means you are a fascist.
Those aren’t my views. I wanted to show that calling yourself antifascist doesn’t mean everyone who is against you is fascist.
I want to create a totalitarian regime
Then you’re not antifascist.
But I say I’m antifascist
But you’re not, and anyone with at least two brain cells can see that.
Trump calls “Antifa” a terrorist organization. “Antifa” is not an organization at all. It’s a broad term for people who call themselves anti-fascists, and rigidly police each other’s use of that term.
We are not talking about some abstract antifa, only this single organization.
You argue that Trump is bad, because he is against organizations, that call themselves antifascist.
I wanted to show that calling yourself antifascist doesn’t mean that people who are against you are fascist.
Fascism is the desire for a totalitarian state where (in general) the population must put the state first above everything. Let’s see here:
I want to create a totalitarian regime ruled by complete degenerated person and I’m actively pursuing my goals.
Well, that sounds pretty fascist to me. Did you mix the two words up?
I think you missed my point
The Trump regime is proud of that. They are happy to do all the signalling that they are dill blown fascists short of admitting directly to it. That way there’s enough “reasonable doubt” that they can sell their snake oil to idiots.
You are infantilizing the fascist underbelly that supports trump.
The “reasonable doubt” isn’t to confuse “idiots”. These “idiots” see through it just like you. The “reasonable doubt” is to give the “idiots” cover against their neighbors, friends, and family.
They know very well what they are voting for, but they are cowards. All fascists are cowards. They will not fight unless they have overwhelming advantage.
Their ideologies stem from deep fear, better described as a life enveloping terror, of everything. For the fascist to feel safe, all things must be dominated or destroyed.
How many children would still see their trump voting parents if the parents said openly “I voted for trump because he is going to kill the people I don’t like”? How many who still see that family member now, wouldn’t under those conditions?
How about last term? How many would have left that person in 2016?
How many neighbors would live next to a person who openly calls for genocide in the neighborhood?
The “reasonable doubt” is cover for these hateful, destructive people. It does not confuse them. They know what they are doing.
Oh for certain, there’s a large subset of the population (around 30% at a guess) who, much like Stephen Miller, are afraid of their own shadows and thus wish to exterminate anything that casts a shadow. For them, the reasonable doubt is purely a facade. They are fully Nazis, they just won’t admit it publicly (but even that social veil has started to crumble)
There’s also a large portion of the population who is largely unaffected by or uninterrested in politics. Here, reasonable doubt is among the tactics employed to make them look away, allowing the Nazis to maintain control. For the most part, these are the “both siders” who prefer a false peace through inaction, or the “apoliticals” who assume Pink Floyd and RAtM sing about the washing machine.
If you ask me, both groups are idiots. They’re powerful idiots but nevertheless they’re the lowest percentile that humanity has to offer.
They are trying really, really hard to pretend they are happy to do that, but the fact that none of their smiles actually look happy could be considered evidence for a lack of happiness.
[A/I] are against fascism and bigotry.
There you have it, that’s the definition of terrorism in America in 2026
I guess we’re ignoring all the labeling of antifa as a terrorist organization?
Anything that is mildly popular that goes against the regime will always be labeled “terrorism”
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In addition to A/I, other groups have also been designated as “global far-left terrorists”, like the UK-based Palestine Action (who are against supplying arms to Israel and their genocide in Gaza)
Yes, being opposed to terrorists is terrorism.
So now anyone who does anything other than sitting back and doing nothing is a terrorist
I read their announcement a few days back, where they emphasized their ability to bring services, when taken down, back up pretty quickly. I am not involved in that space, and i am pretty sure that it will be a lot harder to restore services under these circumstances, but are you sure they won’t come back up? They seemed very motivated to brace this storm, even if only to create a testament regarding overcompliance of business entities.
No, they’ll be able to restore without issue. There’s plenty of server hosts that don’t care about this sillyness.
They said what’s different now is funding. It’s just harder for them to pay for things and accept donations. But we have solutions for that (monero), it just minimizes the funds they’ll get and which providers accept it.
Ok so at first we have to look at why they are getting sanctioned and why not let’s says someone like Mullvad is getting sanctioned. Here is the official reasoning:
The difference here seems to be that they explicitly know what their “customers” are doing (e.g. terrorism/energy infrastructure sabotage) and allow/endorse that.
If you are on a platform that endorses terrorists organizations - well you can apply the same reasoning as with a Nazi bar.
You can find EU alternatives for mail here: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/email-providers
If you really had an account on that sanctioned platform I would recommend to wipe everything there and run a GDPR request for data deletion otherwise your data might show up during their next police raid.
The difference here seems to be that they explicitly know what their “customers” are doing (e.g. terrorism/energy infrastructure sabotage) and allow/endorse that.
A/I has denied these claims that the U.S. government has made, they are not terrorists, they merely share communication services for people who are against fascism, racism, militarism, and bigotry of all kinds. The majority of their users are regular people, perhaps activists, and the few that advocate for violence doesn’t make A/I terrorists. I can guarantee you there are more extremists on Gmail than on A/I, more illegal content is distributed through services like Google Drive and MEGA than A/I does, more hate is spread by Medium and Substack compared to A/I’s blog services.
The Trump admin is using the terrorist designation to restrict an organisation that does not agree with their ideology. Antifascism and protest is not terrorism.
If you believe the lies in a Trump press release, then you are the most gullible bootlicking fool on the planet.
Or a fascist like his rotting orange half-corpse fuhrer and his braindead lackeys.
They are being sanctioned because the fascists running the US are using their power to disenfranchise antifascists. They offer an opinionated service, quote:“…recognizes and promotes anticapitalism, antiracism, antifascism, antisexism, antimililtarism, and the refusal of authoritarianism and hierarchies.”. They are being sanctioned because providing infrastructure to ideologies outside of those aligned with Trump and his cronies is being construed as “terrorist activitiy”.
Go lick some more fascist boots and fuck off.
Yeah totally expect a simple comment from someone like you after I looked at the instance.
These guys knowingly provide hosting infrastructure for people
- sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands
- sabotaging the Transalpine Pipeline (TAL)
- doing multiple arson attacks and acts of sabotage against Germany’s rail and energy infrastructure (probably referring to “Vulkangruppe”)
Polictical ideology is irrelevant when you knowingly provide a platform for terrorists you will end up in legal trouble.
That entire organisation is also certainly already bugged by police or intelligence services and scheduled for getting taken down soon.
These guys knowingly provide hosting infrastructure for people
- sabotaging rail systems across France, Italy, Germany, and the Netherlands
- sabotaging the Transalpine Pipeline (TAL)
- doing multiple arson attacks and acts of sabotage against Germany’s rail and energy infrastructure (probably referring to “Vulkangruppe”)
Polictical ideology is irrelevant when you knowingly provide a platform for terrorists you will end up in legal trouble.
there is a legal procedure that should happen then, not an immediate takedown! trump’s puppets should contact the Italian authorities, get court approval to request data, if they don’t comply then get the court to seize hardware, or whatever else they do before that. did any of that happen here?
No, it didn’t, because A/I hasn’t broken any laws, just as google doesn’t break any law when indexing neonazi propaganda that is illegal in germany. A/I has been under legal attack more than once, and it is very obvious that it didn’t work, because nothing they do is illegal.
Designating someone as a terrorist in a country where the law and justice mean something should need a previous sentencing for a crime that gives a legal basis for such a designation (aka planning or executing attacks, murders, blackmail, you know, the stuff the current US administration is very guilty of). This designation is the equivalent to sentencing someone to life in prison without any legal defense; the US executive took the place of Jury, Judge and Executioner all at once.
Google provides search results for everything under the sun, legal or not. AWS is used by real terrorists. Microsoft Azure is used in genocides. Palantir is used to prop up the surveillance state. Meta advertises child porn. X is providing communication services for far right groups. I do not see them being designated a terrorist group - providing infrastructure for communication is not the same as being a terrorist.
This designarion is not one of “you are harming people”. It is based on “You think the wrong way and therefore you are our enemy”. If you can’t differentiate that, you are either brainwashed or a fascist yourself. Be ashamed, if you are even able to.
Google provides search results for everything under the sun, legal or not
Incorrect. Certain entries can be delisted. Google is e.g. using https://lumendatabase.org/ for that.
I have no idea what this discussion has to do with e. g. Planatir as they don’t provide hosted services to users.
To stay on the topic: non of these services explicitly allow or endorse terroristic content on their platform.
If you can’t differentiate that, you are either brainwashed or a fascist yourself
Such nice words. If everyone is a facist nobody is.
By default they list everything. You can contact them and remove stuff, but by default all the smut, trash and bullshit of the web gets indexed. A/I would remove illegal content too, but this wasn’t even tried. Don’t deflect.
Palantir provides infrastructure, same as the others. They fit well, especially when viewed from the perspective of who you are allowed to provide services to on basis of ideology.
A/I also do not explicitly allow or endorse terroristic content. They provide infrastructure for communication to people, same as any other hoster or mail provider. Only difference is their antifascistic stance and that they have been repeatedly the target of repressive actions.
And no, only the people who attack antifascist infrastructure based on the words of a nazi government - You know, the currrent US administration - are fascists or fascist bootlickers. Need examples?
- Heil Hitlering Musk (just to start off with something graphic)
- Hegseths removal of women and non-white people from positions of power in the armed forces
- Trumps fawning over his “good relations” with every dictator on the planet
- The US voting together with Israel and fucking North Korea in the UN to prevent condemnation of the aggression of Israel in the West Bank
- Ex-Kristi Noems restructuring of ICE and border authorities (forgot their 3-letter-acronym) into the equivalent of the SS, which is being used to stick people with the wrong skin color - sometimes even ignoring citizenship or protected status, while ignoring court orders - into concentration camps before transporting them to autocratic states to dump them into CECOT regardless of being guilty of a crime, and to shoot protesters and PoC
- Vance’s endorsement of groups like the AfD, Orban et. al (AfD has been recognized as an extreme-right organization by the authorities in Germany
- The reconstruction of the DOJ to serve and protect the executive and ignoring orange fuhrers pedophilia
- The infiltration of the supreme court by christofascists
- The blackmailing of TV networks which have comedians critical of Trump on air using the FCC, treatening to pull their licence
- The misuse of military assets for PR stunts involving Kid Rock and iBrainworm Kennedy, leading to the dismissal of peopleinvestigating this event
- The abduction of a foreign head of state to enrich Trump and his buddies
- The witchhunt on minorities like somalians in Minnesota, drag queens and trans people nationwide
- The ignorance of the resulting rise in violence and even murders of PoC, minorities and democrats by far-right groups, because it is a positive thing for them - other countries would have started organized action against this amount of far-right terror.
- The designation of Antifa as a terrorist organization (do you realize who tho only group which sees Antifa as terrorists? I´ll let you in on a secret: the only people who perceive antifa as terrorists are fascists)
- The assault on public education at large and the attempt at rewriting history, trying to color slavery as something positive for PoC
- The bullying of every ally the US ever had on the international stage, similar to how Hitler started bullying the countries surrounding Germany in the leadup to WW2
- The threats of invasion, annexation and exposure of long-term allies to enemy aggression
I could go on far longer, but i do not want to waste more time at you. If you are just a brainwashed, lost soul, stop watching the crap Youtube and Meta are throwing in your face, you are too easily influenced to discern the difference between neonazi propaganda and reality. If you are a true believer in that shit, my condolences go to the part of your family that doesn’t want to have contact with you anymore (probably your kids and ex-wife), and the rest of what i would put here is intentionally self-censored, but you will probably get the gist.
Im not going to read that schizophrenic manifesto. Learn how to communicate properly with people and don’t tell me that a certain US president lives in your walls and there are Nazis on the moon.
Have a nice day.
Lol, an illiterate fascist! You are truly part of the greatest race of all.
For everyone else, i will provide Sartre again:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert."
And now we have arrived at the last sentence with this guy:
"If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
this condescending cringy language is why they hate us
They hate us because they are fascists and hate is their core concept. And we’ve seen how much of a fuck they give when we try to converse with them on equal ground over the last decades. Never forget what Sartre said:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Discourse with a fascist is useless in the vast majority of cases. What isn’t useless is to show the inhumanity, selectivity and selfishness of their language when shown in a public forum. Note how they started acting after Walz started naming these people “weird”. They don’t cope well with being shown to be what they really are. Chastising them for being inhuman drekheads and naming things as they are is not “cringy”, it is an imperative.
They hate us because they are fascists
Discourse with a fascist is useless
Ok so everyone is a facist in your opinion… and therefore discussion with everyone is useless.
Idk but that sounds like you have schizophrenia to me.
I am talking about that discourse with fascist is, indeed, useless - your reply just underscored Sartres words perfecty. Thanks for that.
The difference here seems to be that they explicitly know what their “customers” are doing (e.g. terrorism/energy infrastructure sabotage) and allow/endorse that.
Congratulations, you drank the propaganda. They do not explicitly know what their customers are doing, because they believe in privacy and everything is encrypted. What they explicitly know is that their “customers” are not capitalists, racists, fascists, sexists, militarists, or authoritarians because they ask during registration. It is not the duty nor the right of a service provider to ensure how its users use their platform, contrary to what you have been told for decades to justify surveillance. It’s not a hard concept: either criminals can get privacy too, or no one can. Sure preventing terrorist attacks is something no one can oppose, but just like that you also silence every journalist, activist and whistleblower that just wants a secure service without Uncle Sam’s hands in it
Their website and mailing server has been taken down
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK it has happened. Only yesterday most DNS services allowed it.
Now even OpenNIC blocks it.I’ve been relying on autistici.org for years.
whois autistici.org ... Domain Status: serverHold https://icann.org/epp#serverHold Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited Domain Status: serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited ... URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf/ >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2026-08-29T11:27:15Z <<<Check out these links, it’s bad:
serverHold https://icann.org/epp#serverHold
clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibitedAnd most importantly
https://icann.org/wicf/I wonder which complaint type is the correct one here?
…wait what all the form links -except the first one - resolve to my.site.com. WTF
Another person pointed out, inventati.org still functions. As another another person pointed out, ICANN is capitalistic and the .org TLD is owned by a US business. I don’t know why only autistici.org tho. May go down too, soon…
Also, that was also my own reaction.
Have you dried using a tor browser to access their website?
Yes, same result.
