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Long as we have to depend on chemical propellants, the moon is as far as we’ll ever get
Well the solar panels all deployed and are charging, but yeah using chemical burns isn’t good for much beyond orbital movement
Still need a reliable method to convert the power gained from solar into propulsion with enough force so that it won’t take a decade to get anywhere
SLS has gotten a lot of well-deserved hate for being an expendable money pit. All that aside, damn, it lifted off with humans in it and off to the moon! There’s no other currently available rocket that can do that, including Starship.
Hopefully the shitters work.
What about universal healthcare instead of moon missions.
The entire NASA budget is less than 3% of the US military budget. NASA or moon missions are really not the reason the US can’t afford health care
Neither is the military. Spending on healthcare as % of GDP is higher than many countries with universal health care.
Insurance, hospitals and honestly even a lot of doctors are against it.
This seems like a pretty big deal, why am I only now finding out about this
Probably because all the horrible shit trump does takes up all the space.
I caught it through NPR maybe a couple weeks before it happened, and some science YouTubers were hype about it, but other than that I caught very little coverage. Not a lot mentioned on here that I saw til the day of or the day before. Not that it wasn’t talked about here before that, but just what I noticed.
I don’t know, we need to do a better job of advertising this stuff if a lot of people don’t know about it. This is one of the few decent things the U.S. is doing.
I can’t feel excited about this This feels like part of a new US expansionist agenda.
God you people are insufferable
Same, I just read it like: Somewhere under some fascist ultra right regime they achieved something. Can’t really get hyped about nazis doing cool stuff, because they do it for nazi reasons.
Oh look kim yong un built a park. Putin openend a new school for gymnasts. Trump built golf resort on the moon. Yawn 🥱
Imperialism is wrong. Expansionism is perfectly fine. There’s nothing wrong with a nation or people improving their standard of living by gathering more resources and increasing their capabilities. It’s only wrong when that expansion is at the cost of other human beings or the environment.
I’m all in favor of space expansion. Maybe some day we can move our most polluting industries off the Earth’s surface. Hell, my dream would be a world where most people don’t even live on the planet itself. You want to live a big resource intensive life, the equivalent of modern suburban living? Do it in space. Want to do industrial agriculture? Do it in space. Want to run a giant factory? Do it in space. If you want to live on Earth, you have to abide by strict resource utilization and environmental impact rules. Everything else goes to space. The Earth becomes one big nature preserve with a few dense cities and organic farms scattered about.
I’ve said this in the past, the earth is the only place with life we actually know of. We can speculate about life elsewhere but earth is the only confirmed source of life we should do everything to preserve life on earth and the natural forces that govern it.
But this ain’t that. This lands, to me, lands more in the “we’re staking a claim to the moon and these are the first steps in that process”
I hope I’m wrong but right now I can’t get excited about this.
Sir, this is Lemmy. All we are allowed to do here is
complaincritique
This is the culmination of a lot of hard work, blood, sweat, and tears from a lot of engineers. It is the furthest thing from expansionism.
Its probably the only decent thing the U.S. is doing right now that I don’t feel bad about.
What is the reason for needing to go to the moon?
They’re looping around it, going farther than any humans ever, and scanning the whole thing for mineral deposits and possible base construction sites. The plan is to build a base then shipyard to go out farther from there.
sounds expansionist
But why? What is it that we need that isn’t on Earth already?
Space. The final frontier.
We’re floating on a tiny pebble in the infinite ocean of space, why not explore?
we dont have healthcare and homelessness still exsists?
Neither of those things has anything to do with this. You can eliminate the NASA budget and you still won’t have healthcare lol. You have to actually fight for that.
There’s a Canadian on board, we have healthcare.
The current administration lacks any ability to build, or latch onto anything in that vein long term. Most they could do is drop a tesla on the moon advertising a new grift.
I wonder how Flatearthers are going to explain this one.
I’ve already seen “it’s AI generated”.
Same way moon landing deniers do.
“The whole thing is staged! Nobody actually flew anywhere! They just put some guys in costumes and filmed them on a sound stage in Hollywood!”
Frog lenses
Please don’t let it be cancelled and returned early because of a toilet That would just be too much. This is the first thing that has made me legitimately excited since having to unexpectedly say goodbye to my soul-dog last month. I need this, dammit.
How exactly do you think they’d return prematurely? Hit the reverse button?
Its the entire reason they did a full orbit before firing the lunar injection burn, so that if something was wrong they could jettison the service module and perform a deorbit burn for an early splashdown in the pacific.
Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now? Half of the comments here aren’t even ontopic.
Going back to the moon is still an engineering feat, even if we’ve done it before. That was a generation ago, and all of those engineers are retired or about to.
AFAIK, the service module is European, built by the ESA, so this is not 100% an American accomplishment.
This gives mission me hope. A diamond in the rough.
Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now? Half of the comments here aren’t even on topic.
My friend, the toilet was clogged on the rocket.
Toilet= shitty
Seems on topic to me
Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now?
So you concede this is all about distraction.
Let’s discover antibiotics again!
I’m surprised that Trump didn’t sign an EO declaring that it was now the Trump space mission rather than Artemis II.
I don’t care what we call it, as long as we keep funding the science and engineering. The amount of people who don’t understand why we should do this stuff is astounding. And I’m honestly not the best at articulating why we should do it.
I mean I kinda see manned missions as pointless. I would like us to remotely create destinations before going through the added expense of people and I think the technology gains would be bigger.
Lucky for you, we have sent probes to the moon.
Unluckily, the next probe is set for Uranus…
I’m going to ignore the obvious Kindergarten joke (which I’ve made myself).
I would be happy to send a probe to Uranus. We know a lot less about the outer planets bcz we’ve really only done a few flybys of them.
I don’t see the point of sending people to the moon or Mars. It will always be insanely expensive to do anything there, always. What is there to discover that can’t be done with robots? Doing it for the poetic sake of doing it--“going where no man has gone before”-- seems impractical and wasteful.
Yes, we’ve done it in the past, exploring, that doesn’t mean we must keep doing it as it becomes more impractical, and with what benefits, exactly? Exploiting whatever resources are there? Is that really what we should be doing?
The moon is a good stopping off point for the rest of the solar system. Launching interplanetary missions from the moon is much easier assuming a moon base exists
Why waste billions when we can waste trillions!
you guys realize NASA probes have already gone beyond the solar system?
Im on the same page. I feel we should concentrate on discovery with probes or rovers and such and automation. trying to mine something robotically on an asteroid. if we can do that then see if we can smelt it. See if we can create fuel in space and such. I don’t think we will progress at all till we can be sourcing and manufacturing in space.
Asteroid mining is ridiculous. Ignorance of both asteroids and mining.
Yeah, why do things! Let’s just sit on our ass and stagnate!
Stop trying, idiots, things are hard!
Yeah, why do things! Let’s just sit on our ass and stagnate!
Let’s do the same thing over and over again and call it progress! Next time you are in a hospital watching a loved one dying of cancer, you can tell them how many times we flew around the moon!
We can’t breathe, the earth is on fire…let’s do another moon victory lap!
whew. i’ve rolled the dice on my life, but i’ve never gotten on a boeing spacecraft. and the shitter’s already clogged.
SLS is mostly designed by Lockeed-Martin and NASA SRC. Boeing was a private contractor too though. This is also the first space toilet we’ve put in a spacecraft and exactly why we’re doing this test flight.
You’re thinking of Starliner. This is SLS (Space Launch System).
Right, my mistake. Shitter is clogged tho. Seriously. I know how to design a clogproof shitter (you need a mashing stick) and look what they did.
Space toilets are complicated. They don’t have gravity assisting the flush. You’d be surprised how even simple stuff we take for granted on Earth is complex when you take away gravity.
Yeah, but MAGAs believe the earth is flat and space is Fake News, so the administration is walking a fine line as regards speaking about it.
omfg can yous not enjoy a moon mission without falling into doomerism and talking about the epstein files
Some people seem to think about political issues every day. It seems unhealthy and unhappy.
But that’s the joke.
They launched the integrity of the USA off the planet, so it won’t bother them anymore for a few days.
I saw this from my front porch yesterday. Nothing like it. Godspeed.
it must be one thing to experience living near an airport. then it must be another thing to experience living near a rocket launchpad
Had the live stream on all day, I jumped up when the clock hit T-0 yelling “fly girl FLY!” Most powerful rocket NASA has launched, I definitely teared up. We need more of this. The possibilities to show what good humanity can do.
What good does colonizing the moon do? Genuinely curious.
America, fast going backwards, has today reached
19691968, assuming that this mission succeeds.(Edit: this is not even a moon landing so more Apolo 8 than Apolo 11).
A truly pointless waste of money. This is what we did with all the cancer research money cut from NIH.
While Whitey’s on the moon.
While Whitey’s on the moon
At least the crew for this mission includes a black guy and a woman, unlike the 24 white dudes who crewed the Apollo missions.
Right, it’s definitely this and not the 200 billion dollar budget of ICE, or all the resources going towards the war in Iran right now.
Terrible take. A lot of what we know in science is due to NASA research. NASA is <0.5% of the federal budget. There are plenty of egregious things we are wasting money on to be upset about - this is not one of them.
NASA is <0.5% of the federal budget
that’s <0.5% more than cancer research.
A lot of what we know in science is due to NASA research
Someone not in STEM would say this. NASA has some important projects, this is not one of them.
Sending up this rocket accomplishes NOTHING. This is an idiot project based on moon colony fantasy and a way to shovel more tax $ to Elon Musk and SpaceX while people clap and holler like idiots.
This poem from 1970 illustrates exactly how far the US has progressed in 55 years:
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the Moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey’s on the Moon)
I can’t pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey’s on the Moon)
Ten years from now I’ll be paying still.
(while Whitey’s on the Moon)
Except we can update 10 years to 20 years.
Someone not in STEM would say this
So you then? Because anyone who has to work with grants to fund their research knows this isn’t how this works at all. Lmao go back to Reddit.
Not to mention the R&D that Nasa does provides a massive return on investment
40 years ago.
And a lot of the NASA science budget was cut because it was too boring for the toddler administration who want to play with their flashy toys.
the budget was moved over to SpaceX on the lie of private sector efficiency. But to the credit of SpaceX, they did blow up more rockets than the inefficient NASA ever did.
It was largely restored under the 2026 congressional budget at levels similar to 2025. The trump administration tried to punish centers in blue states by taking away their funding, the worst of which was Goddard with a 50% budget cut. Basically they tried to cancel nearly every earth observing science mission, which is Goddards bread and butter.
They went to hide the Epstein files on the far side of the Moon.
