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Long as we have to depend on chemical propellants, the moon is as far as we’ll ever get
Well the solar panels all deployed and are charging, but yeah using chemical burns isn’t good for much beyond orbital movement
Still need a reliable method to convert the power gained from solar into propulsion with enough force so that it won’t take a decade to get anywhere
The nuclear reflection engine is still our best bet, I feel like it may take actual zero G experiments to solve but I think we can achieve fusion
Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now? Half of the comments here aren’t even ontopic.
Going back to the moon is still an engineering feat, even if we’ve done it before. That was a generation ago, and all of those engineers are retired or about to.
This gives mission me hope. A diamond in the rough.
I’m surprised that Trump didn’t sign an EO declaring that it was now the Trump space mission rather than Artemis II.
I don’t care what we call it, as long as we keep funding the science and engineering. The amount of people who don’t understand why we should do this stuff is astounding. And I’m honestly not the best at articulating why we should do it.
I don’t see the point of sending people to the moon or Mars. It will always be insanely expensive to do anything there, always. What is there to discover that can’t be done with robots? Doing it for the poetic sake of doing it--“going where no man has gone before”-- seems impractical and wasteful.
Yes, we’ve done it in the past, exploring, that doesn’t mean we must keep doing it as it becomes more impractical, and with what benefits, exactly? Exploiting whatever resources are there? Is that really what we should be doing?
Yeah, why do things! Let’s just sit on our ass and stagnate!
Stop trying, idiots, things are hard!
Yeah, why do things! Let’s just sit on our ass and stagnate!
Let’s do the same thing over and over again and call it progress! Next time you are in a hospital watching a loved one dying of cancer, you can tell them how many times we flew around the moon!
We can’t breathe, the earth is on fire…let’s do another moon victory lap!
Im on the same page. I feel we should concentrate on discovery with probes or rovers and such and automation. trying to mine something robotically on an asteroid. if we can do that then see if we can smelt it. See if we can create fuel in space and such. I don’t think we will progress at all till we can be sourcing and manufacturing in space.
Asteroid mining is ridiculous. Ignorance of both asteroids and mining.
if thats the case then going into space is rediculous because if we at some point can’t source and build our there then there is no future out there.
The moon is a good stopping off point for the rest of the solar system. Launching interplanetary missions from the moon is much easier assuming a moon base exists
Why waste billions when we can waste trillions!
you guys realize NASA probes have already gone beyond the solar system?
AFAIK, the service module is European, built by the ESA, so this is not 100% an American accomplishment.
Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now? Half of the comments here aren’t even on topic.
My friend, the toilet was clogged on the rocket.
Toilet= shitty
Seems on topic to me
I mean I kinda see manned missions as pointless. I would like us to remotely create destinations before going through the added expense of people and I think the technology gains would be bigger.
Lucky for you, we have sent probes to the moon.
Unluckily, the next probe is set for Uranus…
I’m going to ignore the obvious Kindergarten joke (which I’ve made myself).
I would be happy to send a probe to Uranus. We know a lot less about the outer planets bcz we’ve really only done a few flybys of them.
The kindergarten joke was the entire point of the comment.
In your rush to get mean dig in on the previous commenter, you willfully misunderstood or misinterpreted their point.
Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now?
So you concede this is all about distraction.
Let’s discover antibiotics again!
Saw it from KSC actually, was great.
Trump said they’re going further than we’ve ever gone before! Checkmate Apollo moon landing believers!
Technically he is right about this.
Yeah but you can see the obvious absurdity in stating it. Hope they don’t get fried by the intense solar weather or smashed by one of these fireballs from the apparent debris field we’re traveling through.
Why is it absurd to state a fact? Oh, because it’s Trump. Nevermind.
Space is big, they’ll probably be fine
I wonder how all that space debris compares to the probability of all the commercial airliners ascending and descending through birds and what not. Comparative damage aside.
It doesn’t.
It wasn’t just trump saying it. They repeated it many times in the NASA stream before the launch. Regarding moonlanding deniers, they are just gonna misunderstand it on purpose and say “see! They never went to the moon with Apollo! Why would they be saying they have never went so far before!” etc. They are already doing it… >_>
Its really not absurd at all. Its the truth and a historic milestone.
And you shouldn’t speak on topics you’re on uninformed about.
You don’t think it sounds funny to say “We’re going to the moon! A distance nobody has ever gone before!”?
are they doing a further away turn around the moon than before?
Yes, they do around a 4500km height flyby at the back side of the moon, Apollo I think did below 1000km at the highest, so like 3500km farther away (+ moon orbit perturbations).
Before this mission the furthest humans have been was Apollo 13 which essentially did a flyby like this one. This one will do a similar manoeuvre but slightly further away from earth.
The moon is slowly moving further away from Earth
So I didn’t know that, but I looked it up and its 3.8cm a year.
The moon isn’t always the exact same distance from earth either, so that extra distance is pretty negligible compared to where it was on any given previous mission, that his statement isn’t necessarily true.
Artemis II will loop around the moon on a trajectory that will take it about 4500 miles farther away from Earth than any of the Apollo manned missions.
Ah okay that makes more sense than it slowly drifting away.
My wife doesn’t think 3,8cm are negligible. She says it’s very big.
The previous moon missions all went into orbit around the moon (except for Apollo 13). This one only does a free return trajectory without completing a full moon orbit.
Which means it loops around at greater distance and will be further away from the moon and from earth than previous manned moon missions.So they’re doing less than before and making it sound like it’s a new milestone.
Ah, okay. That is still pretty cool though even if it is less.
whew. i’ve rolled the dice on my life, but i’ve never gotten on a boeing spacecraft. and the shitter’s already clogged.
SLS is mostly designed by Lockeed-Martin and NASA SRC. Boeing was a private contractor too though. This is also the first space toilet we’ve put in a spacecraft and exactly why we’re doing this test flight.
You’re thinking of Starliner. This is SLS (Space Launch System).
Right, my mistake. Shitter is clogged tho. Seriously. I know how to design a clogproof shitter (you need a mashing stick) and look what they did.
Space toilets are complicated. They don’t have gravity assisting the flush. You’d be surprised how even simple stuff we take for granted on Earth is complex when you take away gravity.
💎 🙌
Oh what’s next, will Spain send three wooden boats to the New World, take a few pictures, and come back?
Moon spices must flow
Greetings Moon Men! We mean you no harm. We simply come in search of delicious herbs and spices. And to help you run your own longstanding society, about which we clearly know best. Cough, cough. Sorry, we are a bit under the weather with some Earth pathogens - you ARE immune, are you not?
“If I told you once, Chris, I told you a thousand times: slaves go in the other direction.”
omfg can yous not enjoy a moon mission without falling into doomerism and talking about the epstein files
But that’s the joke.
Some people seem to think about political issues every day. It seems unhealthy and unhappy.
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I don’t know, we need to do a better job of advertising this stuff if a lot of people don’t know about it. This is one of the few decent things the U.S. is doing.
I caught it through NPR maybe a couple weeks before it happened, and some science YouTubers were hype about it, but other than that I caught very little coverage. Not a lot mentioned on here that I saw til the day of or the day before. Not that it wasn’t talked about here before that, but just what I noticed.
Probably because all the horrible shit trump does takes up all the space.
Hell yeah! Let’s go!
You’re too late, they already left.
Not again!
KEVIN!
Ooh I know this reference. It’s Wall-E, right?
Yeah, when the two immortal robbers try to steal Wall-E’s treasures and he deals gross bodily slapstick horrors to them for the sake of a gag.
It was a beautiful launch
I forgot I received this a few years ago from volunteering… let’s go Artemis!
Heck yeah!!!
most elaborate April fools prank this year
If they can fake the moon landing they can fake a launch.
If they can fake launch, can they fake dienner, too?
I don’t know what that is but I believe in them.
Bearing in mind that explaining jokes ruins them, “launch” can be pretend-read as a mispelling of “lunch”, so I mispelled “dinner” to make a stupid joke.
This is a terrible joke, and I love it.
I don’t know you, but if you’re anything like my dog, you must think I’m awesome! Which I appreciate, but I question your judgement.
if you can fake a wrench, you can fake a ball!
Yeah, a little over the top in my opinion. More money than I’m willing to spend on a prank.
They tricked the Astronauts into thinking they are going to the moon, when in reality they are aiming for Jupiter. Good luck nerds!
I was honestly considering that, even though it would have been strnge for AP. I opened the article and the latest update was about some toilet issue
I have now seen 2 moon launches live. Will I live to see them actually set foot back on the moon again. Who knows.
I Fuckin hope so Louie.
Only if you have a really good telescope
Sometimes I regret that if I had been more of a motivated person in my younger years, I could be in space.
But also, I know that given my physical state and brain damage and such, it was a dead dream as soon as my first stroke happened, two days after birth.
Still, a woman can dream.
<3
Guessing based on your writing abilities things turned out in (yes, a different, but) pretty damn decent way
I’m much more proficient these days with my second language than my first, poetic even, but I do still take my time going down the wrong side of stairs, with the rail and my cane to support my movement.
For this and many more reasons, every day I live is a frozen revenge in a boiling summer served to fascists.
There’s a lot more for a human to see and experience here on Earth than there will ever be in space.
I love science, space, and science fiction as much as the next person, but at some point humanity is going to have to come to terms with the fact that just about everything worth truly caring about is right here on our planet.
And yet, going to a remote corner of the planet, lying down on the ground, and taking it all in, forms the basis for most of our mythology and dreams.
I’m not sure I can agree that space forms “the basis for most of our mythology and dreams”–whether we’re talking Greek titans or druidic spirits, a lot of mythology is based on worldy phenomenons–but even supposing it did, Earth certainly forms the basis for human existence and all known life itself.
Earth is the epicenter of all known thought. And if there is anything out there in space with the ability to dream like we do, it is likely far beyond our reach in terms of distance and time.
This isn’t to say that we shouldn’t care about space, only to say that we should care a whole lot more about what exists here on Earth.
Still, a woman can dream.
Republicans are trying very hard to change that, alas.
Also, fuck Republicans.
