Whenever i talk to people about privacy, specifically my friends when i tell them why i switched to Signal and stopped using WhatsApp, i’m always met with people saying that i’m just making no sense and “why would you care so much if you have nothing to hide? I don’t care that meta sees that stuff” and some people are just so stubborn to understand that they might even settle on the “what would a billion dollar company want from me specifically?”. It makes me mad how people refuse to even consider alternatives and open their mind a bit. What do you think?
Shift the conversation towards autonomy, dignity and self-respect.
The user’s interaction with the-billion-dollar-company’s software is unpaid labour, which is why they profit and the user suffers. They suffer from having their data stolen; they suffer the expenses fostered on to them; they pay for the computers that spy on them; they pay for the electricity to run the spyware; they pay for the data-subscriptions that facilitate the theft of their data. They cover all the expenses of a billion-dollar-company and are deprived of any profit. They do not even garner a wage.
If one wishes to move towards the point of “my data is worthless” point out the company’s profits or even its speculative valuations. Clearly it’s not worthless. The products that are derived from their exploitation lead to even greater profits for those companies. “A.I.” is a looting of the collective commons. A privatization of humanity’s interaction with computers.
Do they like being exploited? Do they like their batteries draining faster, because their mobile-computer is running software to spy on them? Do they like running out of data because their mobile-computer is forcefully downloading ads and spyware-updates? Do they like ads? Do they like being interrupted by the highest bidder? Do they like annoying notifications that are just ads? Do they like this shitty experience? Are they complete docile slaves? They are less than wage-slaves for they do not even garner a wage! Have some self-respect and dignity!
Lock eyes and unzip their pants.
Ask him to live in a glass house at Madison square garden…
“Okay, unlock your phone and hand it over so I can go through it.”
That’s where they all get cold feet. All of them.
You might just be in a bubble of privacy-minded people. I know many people who would hand over their phone unlocked at the drop of a hat. Their digital lives just don’t mean anything to them. But more likely, they don’t appreciate the damage someone can do with that access.
Next time just open their banking app and start transfering money to your account, let’s see how long that lasts.
So your getting their password or face or fingerprint? Most banking apps have some sort or authentication.
Did you read the last sentence?
I did this once to someone and they were like “ok sure here you go…” I wanted to then check their gallery just to make a point, but I ended up not doing it because it made me so uncomfortable. Guess I won’t be fit as a totalitarian regime leader 😆. I just don’t understand how some people care THAT little for their own privacy.
Next time just open their banking app and start transfering money to your account, let’s see how long that lasts.
You have nothing to hide from the people currently in power
The people who used to say “I have nothing to hide” the loudest to me changed their tone real quick once Flock cameras started being used for ICE pickups, arresting people for traveling to other states for abortions, etc
This is the most compelling argument. I find it gross that companies build a profile of me, but as long as that doesn’t change my life, it’s an annoying cost of using free services.
However, when the state, the only organization that can legally use violence, has access to that data, it’s a different story. Then it moves from gross to dangerous.
Not caring about privacy because you have nothing to hide is the same thing like opposing freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.
Let me your phone unblocked and tell me your banking app password then
“post hole”
“Can I come watch next time you and your partner have sexy times?”
“Unlock your phone and hand it to me”
“Yeah, that’s what I thought”
“If you have nothing to hide, you must be one boring-ass, useless mutherfucker.”
They need to consider the difference between having something to hide and having something to protect. Privacy is something to protect, regardless of what it might be in aid of.
Ask them why they have a bathroom door.
It makes me mad how people refuse to even consider alternatives and open their mind a bit. What do you think?
I’ve experienced this. For me, it was important to be able to communicate w people AND to not give all my data to Facebook apple or google. Since I can’t make ppl care about privacy, the best I could do was stick w SMS/MMS.
Obv, messages I send to ppl who use and android or apple device still get sent up to the mother ship by the receiving device… but I can’t control that.
There are a lot of great apps out there and Signal is one of em. I think if Signal still sent SMS/MMS to ppl without it… I’d reinstall. But without that, I’d be using it all alone.
Im getting rambly… what do I think? I think it would be healthy to move on
People had nothing hide but flock camera still put them as culprit. They had to make all the research themselves because the court believe the police and flock.
It’s not about hiding something anymore, it’s about asshole fucking civil servant doing the biding of tech oligarchs because they don’t know better
