• Red_Scare [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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      The one saying “yes please” to “first they came for communists” while claiming to be a real socialist? It’s the only one that might look like eyeliner although I thought it’s just a smug expression.

      How is cheating on Nazis coming for communists not on the same level of shittiness as the rest? Also how is dunking on that puritanical or misogynistic?

      [Edit] For context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

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        Depicting the sole “feminine” figure making a sexually charged remark is suspect at best, and explicitly misogynistic rhetoric at worst that mimics the classic reactionary line of, “modern women and lgbt are horny degenerates that can’t be real socialists because they make everything about sex!!!”

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          No sorry I think you’re confused, I added a Wikipedia link for context to my previous reply. I don’t think that character was meant to be female or feminist, I think it’s just a character claiming to be a socialist while hating communists so much they applaud literal Nazi anti-communist which hunts, something we see a lot currently with western lib “left”

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            I am aware of the poem. That was not what I was confused about. You misunderstood me.

            I found the artists original work and the sign was very deliberately made vague. You and I both had the correct interpretations, my interpretation was using a different definition of the word “came”. Sorry if I did not make that clear.

            The artist deliberately made the front running character “sexualized” with eyeliner and was doubly poking fun at the anti-communist socialists and the “degenerate” modern communist. Reactionary, but a good way to get two birds with one stone.

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                No, they are using the trope of modern communists being horny-brained and only capable of thinking about sex while making everything sexual. The sign is a double entendre of the person being horny for someone “coming” to/for them.

                This is a common reactionary line of attack used against LGBT communists in particular. Eyeliner is also a common trope of depicting sexualized individuals since the makeup is associated with sexual online subcultures.

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                  No, they are using the trope of modern communists being horny-brained and only capable of thinking about sex while making everything sexual. The sign is a double entendre of the person being horny for someone “coming” to/for them

                  Wait, I thought it was supposed to be misogynistic? I thought that was a bit of a stretch but you can’t be serious - I don’t understand how you could draw the conclusion that the figure is portrayed as being “horny”. You’re reading into depth that this MS Paint stick figure cartoon simply does not have.

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                  The “came for” is very clearly referring to the persecution of communists in reference to the poem it is quoting.

                  There’s nothing sexual about it. There’s nothing misogynistic about it. It is a caricature of an anti-communist “socialist”.

                  They are celebrating anti-communism from the Left. It’s not subtle so I don’t understand how you missed it.

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                    I misunderstood a single post, thanks for beating down. I guess I am that stupid that I missed something not that subtle. You didn’t add anything to the discussion that wasn’t already said but thanks for driving the point home. Great discussion.

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      I can’t tell from looking at it whether it’s supposed to be eyeliner or smile lines around the eyes. Given that the rest of the stick figures are pretty gender-neutral and there’s nothing else that could be considered “feminine” about this one, I would assume the latter.