*please note i deeply value and respect the vegan movement. i am just critical of how humorously it precipitates in online spaces, particularly this one. :)

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    Omnivore, maybe? 🤷

    But yeah, pretending that eating meat is an ism IS an insult when coming from an evangelical vegan who considers it morally reprehensible lol

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      “carnist” has a different meaning than omnivore. It’s used for people who actively defend what they think is their right to consume flesh.

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        Just like how evangelical vegans actively assert what they think is their right to control the diets and other lifestyle choices of adult humans who haven’t asked them to? 🙄

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          basically the same way we assert the right to tell people to stop using ai, to stop being racist, sexist, transphobic, using planes or heavy cars, giving money to fascists…

          chosing to view animals as resources is not about diet, it’s about power over sentient beings and hierarchy of lives based on species.

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            2 years ago

            Holy false equivalences, Batman! Are you going for the record or are you really THAT bad at discerning wildly disparate concepts and levels of severity from each other? 🤦

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                Nope. They’re objectively spewing a large array of false equivalence and my personal comment was directly and logically derived from that and that only.

                It was thus logically sound AKA not a fallacy.

                Your comment, on the other hand, is a textbook example of a reverse causation fallacy strawman combo:

                you portray my criticism of their argument as a personal criticism when in fact my subsequent personal criticism is based on the illogic of their argument and nothing else.

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                  You literally asked if they were that bad at logic while offering no actual refute to what they had to say. But whatever, have a nice day

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                    “Those are not at all equivalent” IS a refutation.

                    It’s not my job to spoonfeed bigots about exactly how my dietary (lack of) choices is different from hating trans and black people while sponsoring fascism 🙄